Typophile - Good Newspaper Serif - Comments

Well, I showed my font

glutton — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:04:08 -0700

Well, I showed my font printouts to the owner and he picked six that he liked:

Delicato by Mr. Hattenbach
Farnham by Mr. Schwartz
Grad & Kandal by Mr. Simonson
Mercury by H&F-J
Worldwide by Mr. Shinn

So, some beautiful faces are on the shortlist. Thanks for your help!

Thanks, Nick, I downloaded

glutton — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:22:12 -0700

Thanks, Nick, I downloaded the big specimen PDF.

Right now the faces I like the best are Mercury and Farnham, but oy, the prices on those two! I don’t think a little paper like ours can afford $1400+ for a 5-user license.

>I really like PDF specimens

Nick Shinn — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 04:57:58 -0700

>I really like PDF specimens and I wish H&F-J and Nick had them.

Sorry I don’t have individual PDF specimens for my fonts (except Bodoni Egyptian).
One of many “must-do’s”.
However, there is a PDF of my whole collection (one page per typeface) on my home page, which gives some idea.

A good PDF resource for news faces is www.newseum.org.
You can download today’s front pages for hundreds of papers from around the world.
And Acrobat enables you to identify the faces used.
(Two with mine in are The Birminghman News, Alabama, and the Globe and Mail, Canada)

dberlow — Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:46:50 -0700

http://www.magtypo.cz/download/TYPO_2003_01.pdf - it’s free.
It’s not there for me. Anyone else?

I am the editor of a small

Andrew Welfle — Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:58:20 -0700

I am the editor of a small student newspaper, and we just went through a redesign initiated by my Ad Manager and myself. We went from Palatino (a good basic font) to a great one called “Utopia”... the link is below. It can go very small before the visibility is compromised. We keep it at 9 pt with a 10pt leding.

Take a look:

http://www.myfonts.com/search?search%5Btext%5D=utopia

-Andrew Welfle

If you e-mail Hoefler &

Chris Keegan — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:55:55 -0700

If you e-mail Hoefler & Frere-Jones they’ll most likely be able to provide you with a .pdf sample. I have a Mercury showing they were gracious enough to send, and have also previously requested one from Lucas Fonts for a few of their faces which they provided as well. Speaking of which - you may want to check out LucasFonts “The Antiqua” series.

I’ve published an overview

filip blazek — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:47:19 -0700

I’ve published an overview of newspaper typefaces in Typo magazine issue #1. Although it was written in the end of 2002, I think it is still a good source of information about the topic. You could download it here http://www.magtypo.cz/download/TYPO_2003_01.pdf - it’s free.

page layout is done by the

paul d hunt — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:47:12 -0700

page layout is done by the editors

that was the problem with my paper, too. wassup with that? if they’re going to take on that function, they should take basic design classes or take it upon themselves to read up on design concepts for newspaper.

1) The logo needs to be

glutton — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:29:44 -0700

1) The logo needs to be tweaked to improve contrast.
2) The cover design needs to be taken out of the realm of the template. Each cover must be designed individually, with sufficient leadtime to allow for a good job.
3) I want to expand the selection of page templates and provide for more editorial color — boxes, lines, and headlines in full color.
4) The headline and body fonts need to be replaced with cooler options.
5) Strict guidelines on typography need to be instituted to elminate the tracking-together of glyphs and the widows & orphans which are in almost every story.

One stumbling block is that page layout is done by the editors — us production people do photoshopping and ads only.

John: So what is your plan?

david hamuel — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:07:34 -0700

John:

So what is your plan? what do you want to change/can change (i.e. layout...)?

“I don’t want to slam my coworkers… they’re great people”

I’m sure they are great.

In reply to - Miguel

deafmetal — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:48:36 -0700

In reply to - Miguel Hernandez:

Don’t know how I’ve missed seeing Gulliver before!

What a fine piece of work that is... Mmmmm must get Newspaper client...

{n.a–b}
est.1971

Gotta say Farnham is indeed

deafmetal — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:43:18 -0700

Gotta say Farnham is indeed a great choice!

A couple of others you might not have considered are Meridien (lovely sharp serifs) or Apolline
(delicious ligatures though very “classique”).

Good luck...

{n.a–b}
est.1971

Yeah, those are story

glutton — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:33:32 -0700

Yeah, those are story “teasers” though how a whole paragraph of text could actually tease someone I’ll never know.

I don’t want to slam my coworkers... they’re great people. I just want to help make a great publication even better.

I put a spread up on the initial message.

You are probably aware of

William Berkson — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:26:17 -0700

You are probably aware of the newsfeed here from

http://www.newsdesigner.com/blog/

and the links there. If not, check them out; newspaper design is a whole field in itself.

BTW… right side, white

david hamuel — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 10:22:01 -0700

BTW... right side, white text — what is that? grocery list? :)

Do you have another sample? spread?

Good Newspaper Serif

glutton — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 06:24:07 -0700

Working at a newspaper right now, and it’s in desperate need of a redesign. Any ideas on a good serif font with a lot of styles and weights that looks good on newsprint? Downer’s “Paperback” is one of my early thoughts. Ideally it would be fresh and reasonably new.