Typophile - Leopard/Adobe CS users - Comments

Hi... going forward

concrete — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:36:01 -0700

Hi... going forward really... no problems am with CS3 and Leopard on all Macs, general speed increase. Only problem noticed was the pasting from Indesign to Illustrator... this is an issue Adobe are aware of

It is possible to install

iljajj — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 01:42:22 -0700

It is possible to install older OS X versions on your machine with some tweaks (and lots of time) but for a variety of reasons I wouldn’t recommend it if you were going to use if for production. Leopard was dire when it was released but after 10.5.2 I found it manageable, not much worse than Tiger. Since I’m running an Intel Machine, staying with CS2 wasn’t really an option, and I’m quite happy with the current configuration.

ILja

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OK.... I have done it.

concrete — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:20:18 -0700

OK.... I have done it. Upgraded to Leopard as a clean install. Re-installed Adobe CS....note to self FIRST DEACTIVATE ADOBE CS SUITE BEFORE WIPING...and too other applications that require this, ie iTunes. Somehow got through it.

Working great... very fast... taking a while getting use to Leopard.

«Yes, Oisin, it is

Oisín — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:37:43 -0700

«Yes, Oisin, it is possible. I did it on my Mac - I had to re-install the OS and by mistake I installed Panther; actually the Mac had been running on Tiger, which I installed when I noticed what I had done.»

How odd. I recently changed the hard drive in a brand new MacBook that shipped with Leopard. Afterwards, I wanted to install Tiger instead of Leopard on it, since my friend whose computer it was likes Tiger better than Leopard, too; but when I tried booting from the Tiger install disc, it simply told me that “This operating system cannot be installed on this hardware” (or however that particular message goes).

Something someone said on a Mac forum led me to believe that this was a universal occurrence, that the version the computer originally shipped with was the earliest that could be installed, so I just let it go.

Are you sure your Mac didn’t originally ship with Panther, and you then upgraded it to Tiger afterwards?

You are right, you can’t

Katharina — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:26:07 -0700

You are right, you can’t install an older version over a new one, but maybe by deleting the new version first ...? Anyway, I should consult an expert before going ahead and crashing the system.

Hi it is apparently not

concrete — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:57:53 -0700

Hi it is apparently not advised to install Tiger over a shipped Leopard unit, has something to do with firmware?... something not to mess with. Have heard of some dire results.

At the risk of having a my Mac not functioning properly or not at all, it is a LARGE part of my business... Leopard is presenting itself as not being stable on G5 2gh dual processor Power PC Macs.. for those wanting to do this, post your results here. based on the said Hardware running CS3.

“it’s not possible to

Katharina — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:40:32 -0700

“it’s not possible to install any older version of OS X than what the machine shipped with.”

Yes, Oisin, it is possible. I did it on my Mac - I had to re-install the OS and by mistake I installed Panther; actually the Mac had been running on Tiger, which I installed when I noticed what I had done.

You really want Time Machine

Dan Weaver — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:19:00 -0700

You really want Time Machine it was so over-do. Tell me the last time you updated your files? I don’t even think about it any more.

«Just buy a new Mac and put

Oisín — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:42:30 -0700

«Just buy a new Mac and put Tiger on it. Problem solved!»

Not necessarily possible.

In many cases (as far as I know, in all cases, actually, but I’m not certain), it’s not possible to install any older version of OS X than what the machine shipped with. If you buy a new Mac now, it should ship with Leopard, in which case you won’t be able to install Tiger on it.

Just buy a new Mac and put

Eluard — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:49:48 -0700

Just buy a new Mac and put Tiger on it. Problem solved!

CS4... will it be Cocoa or

concrete — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:27:39 -0700

CS4... will it be Cocoa or Carbon, not 64 bit yet as the CS4 Windows version will be. I want functional, though now there are applications that are Leopard only, though I don’t really need, them... not at the expense of functionality and sanity. So Tiger and CS3 will have to work for now, though then that puts me in a ’what the heck do I do’ situation of getting new Macs, as I want all of them to be running the same OS and applications.

for me enough said, on this forum.

«I use it at home on my G4

Oisín — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:02:34 -0700

«I use it at home on my G4 Macpro powerbook»

Lovely machine, that.

Leopard will one day be a

Eluard — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:38:37 -0700

Leopard will one day be a great operating system — better than Tiger — but it isn’t at present, I think. Anyone who wants Spaces for multiple desktops — and for me this feature is something I can’t live without — then YouControl multiple desktops is far better and lets you have a different desktop picture for every desktop. I have Leopard installed on a different drive and I use it for some things but not for using CS2 (I’m skipping CS3!), which works perfectly in Tiger on my G5.

Anyhoo — how long til CS4 arrives?

just to clarify some mixed

Ch — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:08:06 -0700

just to clarify some mixed up assumptions, my understanding is that :

1) CS2 was optimized for pre-Intel Macs running Tiger.

2) CS3 was introduced for Intel Macs running Tiger.

3) Then Leopard came out and various CS3 upgrades were
inevitable and are ongoing.

I’m running CS2 on a pre-Intel G5 iMac w/ Tiger - no problems.
I’m also running CS3 on an Intel MacPro laptop w/ Tiger - no problems.

I’m holding off on Leopard until some of the issues i’ve heard about
are worked out.

I’m not sure why one would

bieler — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:38:37 -0700

I’m not sure why one would need to go to Leopard at this point, if you haven’t bought an Intel equipped Mac. As a typographer, is there something inherently better with CS3 and Leopard?

I run a souped up G4 (souped up mainly for the internet and video, not type) and have another G4 with Classic. I have the ability to create Multiple Master instances with Classic and I favor Streamline over Illustrator’s Trace, so it often comes in handy for the work I do. Mainly the concern with older computers and software is the ability to port over. With a G4 or even a G3, this is still not a problem.

The speed of a MacPro is great but that really has little to do with typographic needs, especially if we are talking about print. The last great advance in the typographic realm was OT. And, quite frankly, that was nowhere near as earth shattering as PostScript Type I. It’s got some bells and whistles, but those have come at some cost; the loss of multiple masters, lack of user control of letterform configuration, etc. If you like your soup canned, great; but how does it taste?

Gerald

Leopard/Adobe CS users

concrete — Sun, 6 Apr 2008 04:20:11 -0700

Hi I am wondering if I should upgrade to Leopard, am using Adobe CS Suite 3. Have done searches on other forums to see who has and if they are having issues with any of the Adobe CS Suite 3 applications... or fonts issues?

I see the designers posting here of a high level, so who better to ask. Not wanting a poll for posters to do 1 liner posts like: “I have”, would prefer to read how the over all experience was and if it was worth while. Any issues with fonts, font managers, font caches...

Wanting to update the studio, and for once have not jumped in head first on this upgrade. thanks in advance.