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 <title>Thanks David.  Among the</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-288196</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks David.  Among the very good input I&amp;#8217;ve received on this thread, your advice has stood out as both honest and helpful throughout.  I&amp;#8217;ve been mulling over the &amp;#8220;W flame&amp;#8221; idea but the project has been put on hold for a bit.  I&amp;#8217;ll come back soon with an update.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8212;&lt;br /&gt;
Nick Hladek&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon,  7 Jul 2008 17:09:42 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>nvhladek</dc:creator>
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 <title>Good idea, David!</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Good idea, David!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon,  7 Jul 2008 12:06:55 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Sharon Van Lieu</dc:creator>
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 <title>Darnit, it just came to</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Darnit, it just came to me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The overall flame should be similar in shape to a W and the 2 outer pieces should be similar to Cs. That way it sublty has the initials of the church.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;David&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu,  3 Jul 2008 12:09:51 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>adnix</dc:creator>
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 <title>Try getting rid of the</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-287450</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Try getting rid of the rightmost flame and rotating the other two a couple of degrees counterclockwise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; - Lex&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu,  3 Jul 2008 10:32:53 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Lex Kominek</dc:creator>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with the comment at looking at flames for reference, it seems to look more like a water drop with all the flames funneling and shaping in toward the top most point. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the middle flame probably has the most flame-like shape to it. try to move the left and right flames up and down so that they don&amp;#8217;t quite line up so much at the top and bottom. it will add tension and interesting visual space if they don&amp;#8217;t line up so much.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed,  2 Jul 2008 09:26:09 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>oneelectricfairy</dc:creator>
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 <title>I agree about the strokes.</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-287117</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;I agree about the strokes.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue,  1 Jul 2008 21:38:08 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Miss Tiffany</dc:creator>
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 <title>Lose the strokes, they</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Lose the strokes, they don&amp;#8217;t add anything. I suggest going back to paper and drawing a bunch of flames. Google images of flames for reference. Right now it looks too bottom heavy-flames are slightly more vertical.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;David&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue,  1 Jul 2008 17:53:55 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>adnix</dc:creator>
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 <title>I like the first and second</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I like the first and second flames and their negative space in between. But the negative space in between the second and third as well as the third flame still need more life.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue,  1 Jul 2008 16:09:00 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Miss Tiffany</dc:creator>
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 <title>I like Gill, and also</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-287082</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;I like Gill, and also thought I would give Skia a shot, since it&amp;#8217;s also free and well designed.  I think it also balances even better than Gill.  Here&amp;#8217;s my latest:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imageWrap&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/files/calvaryway6_4284.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;imageWrap&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/files/calvaryway7_4441.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8212;&lt;br /&gt;
Nick Hladek&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue,  1 Jul 2008 15:48:18 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>nvhladek</dc:creator>
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 <title>hi nick, no worries, another</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-286996</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;hi nick, no worries, another option for a sans is &lt;a class=&quot;freelinking-external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.typography.com/fonts/font_styles.php?productLineID=100013&quot;&gt;Knockout&lt;/a&gt; or maybe a slab like &lt;a class=&quot;freelinking-external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.typography.com/fonts/font_styles.php?productLineID=100033&quot;&gt;Archer&lt;/a&gt; could do the trick?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;- sye&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Tue,  1 Jul 2008 05:26:48 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Simon Robertson</dc:creator>
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 <title>Hi Nick, what I meant with</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Nick, what I meant with regard to the proportions of the elements was mostly to do with their weights. The example you posted above with the flame outlined looks more balanced to me.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great idea from David about achieving correct negative space in the flames.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ross&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:18:25 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>rlynch</dc:creator>
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 <title>Hi Simon,
Thanks for those</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-286685</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Simon,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for those posts.  They give a lot of good food for thought.  I may give Museo a whirl, although I&amp;#8217;m not at my computer right now.  I&amp;#8217;ll be back tomorrow with an update.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8212;&lt;br /&gt;
Nick Hladek&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:17:23 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>nvhladek</dc:creator>
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 <title>also this:</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-286645</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;also this: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wyd2008.org/index.php/en/about_wyd08/logo&quot; title=&quot;http://www.wyd2008.org/index.php/en/about_wyd08/logo&quot;&gt;http://www.wyd2008.org/index.php/en/about_wyd08/logo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:27:29 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Simon Robertson</dc:creator>
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 <title>Also, I stumbled upon this</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-286643</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;Also, I stumbled upon this logo in the paper:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wyd2008.org/&quot; title=&quot;http://www.wyd2008.org/&quot;&gt;http://www.wyd2008.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;s for World Youth Day 2008 in Sydney, from what I can gather is a big Christian youth event.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Their logo may help you as it references the fire of the Holy Spirit as well as the Cross and the Sydney Opera House, plus looks quite nice, well to me at least.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:22:37 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Simon Robertson</dc:creator>
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 <title>i think adnix’s</title>
 <link>http://typophile.com/node/46841#comment-286563</link>
 <description>&lt;p&gt;i think adnix&amp;#8217;s suggeestion is very good for getting the mark to work. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;also, have you though about other sans options?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Gill has a long and solid history, but maybe there is something more contemporary?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Like: &lt;a class=&quot;freelinking-external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/exljbris/museo/&quot;&gt;Museo&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a class=&quot;freelinking-external&quot; href=&quot;http://www.vllg.com/Schwartzco/Stag/mudTyper+Weights//&quot;&gt;Stag&lt;/a&gt; ??&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:39:39 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Simon Robertson</dc:creator>
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 <title>Logo redesign for Pentecostal church</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m designing a website for a friend of mine who is a pastor of a Pentecostal church in my town.  Although designing a logo is not part of the job, the logo that he gave me to work with is completely horrid.  I think it&amp;#8217;s one of those $99 for a church logo deals, where you select the logo and text you like and they come up with a &amp;#8220;customized design&amp;#8221; just for your church.  I know: I should be careful doing this.  Direct, positive and constructive criticism would be appreciated!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;imageWrap&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/files/calvaryway_5025.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:36:24 -0700</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>nvhladek</dc:creator>
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