bottega veneta logo

can anyone help identify the font used in the bottega veneta logo?

thank you!


There are 2 different logos here and bottom one is very Times New Roman (or Times Ten).
Current logo (and official I guess) is first sample. For this one, I don't have a match and I doubt there's one as almost all woodmarks from the fashion industry are custom lettering. I can only suggest 2 very (very...) loosely similar, Kumlien and Berling and upload a better sample.

kind of hard to find a higher res image but here are a few

it seems like it varies slighty...maybe its just my eyes or the image quality.

their website is a bit more clear.

I thought they started with Palatino and made it thinner manually.