Usage of AE and OE ligatures
Is there a set of rules for the use of AE and OE ligatures in English? I realize that modern English does not use these ligatures, but if I chose to use them, would I substitute them for EVERY occurrence of "ae" and "oe", or would it be selective?
e.g. what if the 'o' and the 'e' belong to separate syllables?
















25.Feb.2003 6.30am
The
25.Feb.2003 7.57am
Curriculum Vit
25.Feb.2003 9.30am
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25.Feb.2003 10.40am
These letter combinations constitute diphthongs, i.e. two vowels pronounced as a single vowel. Their use in modern English is largely limited to words of French origin, but they can now always be replaced by the sequences ae and oe. Conversely, they cannot be used in all contexts that ae and oe occur. Languages with phonetic spelling systems typically treat all combinations of two vowels as diphthongs unless marked otherwise by a diaeresis; English, with its etymological spelling system, does not have this consistency and generally fails to visually distinguish diphthongs.
Traditionally, the
25.Feb.2003 10.45am
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25.Feb.2003 10.57am
Just wondering, fusing this and another recent topic: how is "Hoefler" correctly pronounced?
25.Feb.2003 11.48am
(1) yay for this topic (have been trying to learn about ligatures) and;
(2) uh, "heff-ler?"
25.Feb.2003 12.32pm
Still along the same subject line: where can I find a good resource detailing ligatures? I just assumd that the ct and st ligatures could be used at your own discression.
25.Feb.2003 12.48pm
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25.Feb.2003 1.32pm
Koeiekat: you mean bastardization of "pronunciation". *cough*
The German
25.Feb.2003 3.09pm
Correct. Thus ... bastardization
25.Feb.2003 8.07pm
See? This is why I hate saying proper names aloud (still smarting from that ugly Sotheby's incident in college).
I might be tempted to blame our (American) manglings not only on a lousy language curriculum but also on some latent bitterness from those folks at Ellis Island taking liberties with the spelling of great-great grandaddy's last name.
26.Feb.2003 8.50am
Tracy, do not feel ashamed. Despite all the learned discourse on German pronunciation (and the bastardization of same -- which I can't dispute), as far as I know, Jonathan has never winced at "Heff-ler".
In fact, if you call up HTF, you'll hear Jonathan himself on the message thanking you for calling the "Heff-ler" Type Foundry. 212-777-6640.
When in doubt, go to the source.
-- K.
26.Feb.2003 12.38pm
Thank you; I think the redness may have finally left my cheeks...
26.Feb.2003 12.46pm
There's a healthy, archived thread on ligatures here:
http://www.typophile.com/forums/messages/4100/1097.html