Type ID help

I have tried both whatfontis and whatthefont and the closest I have come is Big Caslon or Patrician. Not too close. On another note, I cannot find any history on Patrician, does anyone know who designed it. I love the Ms and N's in the logo but am guessing they may have it customised. Any help is greatly appreciated.
http://saturday-london.com/clients/dominic-jones/dominic-jones-packaging/

Comments

Looks like they've started from Saturday's own corporate typeface [[http://www.typophile.com/node/77367|Industria]] and tweaked it. It looks to mix influences from [[http://www.fonts.com/font/carter-and-cone/big-caslon|Big Caslon]] (former font on which [[http://www.typophile.com/node/77367#comment-444953|Industria is based]]) and [[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/tiffany|Tiffany]] (mainly on /[[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/tiffany/std/glyphs.html#glyphs/538425/46|M]] and /[[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/tiffany/std/glyphs.html#glyphs/538425/47|N]])/Big Caslon /A top.
Don't know too much about [[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/scriptorium/patrician|Patrician]] part of it looks very close to (Big) Caslon... There are also some [[http://typophile.com/node/51142?page=1#comment-310076|rip-off accusations on some Scriptorium David Nalle's fonts]] so better avoid Patrician...

thanks a ton!

PS: good to know about the scriptorium stuff.

On the other hand, I see a somewhat of a match with Utopia Display Regular. Expanded somewhat and with Tiffany style diagonal stroke ends added to M and N, and cross stroke serifs on E also adjusted.
Don

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