First Draft: spurless geo-Gill

Xenakis's picture

This beeing my first post:
Hello everybody!

I'm an architecture student and this is the first time I'm really dealing with typography. It's only a very basic draft supposed to show the characteristics of a font I want to create myself, as I can't seem to finde anything comparable that tries this fusion of geometric structure and "contemporary" spurless details.
If you know any existing font with these features, please tell me - there has to be one somewhere.
Anyway, please feel free to tell me, wether you think this is a project I should push further or if it is completely hopeless - architects tend to think they can do everything on their own and end up in a massive mess.

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Michael Green's picture

Would like to see more letters! Looks interesting
can you post the beziers of your 's' please?

Xenakis's picture

These are the letters so far. I'm by far the least satisfied with "hmnu" as they seem way too curvy allthough following the design principles of the rest.
The beziers of the "s" are a bit messy, I'm afraid, as I constructed them in my CAD software to blend the curves of two circles and then imported them in illustrator where I designed the rest of the letters. I may be lacking the knowledge to do it in entirely in FontForge or the appropriate software ...

Xenakis's picture

Oh and of course the numbers are completely useless, I'll have to rework them completely. :/

Michael Green's picture

have you had a look at this? - http://typographica.org/on-typography/making-geometric-type-work/

also, if you haven't already, take a look at how Futura developed.

I like the '&'

Michael Green's picture

Take my comments with a pinch of salt but

'f', 'g', 'j', 'r' consider making them curved
'k' bring the lower leg out a bit
'q' looks narrow next to 'p'
'E','F','H' and 'K' - experiment with moving the mid-bars(?) up a bit

keep up the good work

Xenakis's picture

Thanks for your comments, first of all.

You have a point there about the mid-bars in "EFHK" and certainly about the "k". I will definitly try this.
But I happen to like the "g" and especially the "r" as they bring something sharper to the whole thing and I don't like the way the "r" is treated in most spurless fonts. I have to admit the "f" and "j" are rather problematic though.
Still think the worst part are "hnmu" and I have not yet figured out how to deal with them.
Concerning the optical tricks:


Please don't pay any attention to kerning etc.! ;)

Michael Green's picture

thanks for the screenshots - could you post a pdf/big image of 'hmnu'?

Michael Green's picture

have you experimented with thinning the joins a'la your 'P'?

Xenakis's picture

The joints are thinned, but I might have overdone it as the angle is pretty close to perpendicular.
I have experimented a lot with the way to deduct the shapes for "hmnu" but if I construct them in a similar way as "bdpq" the just don't look right next to the other shapes - especially "m" looks ridiculous, though it's tricky in all spurless fonts i've seen so far ...

Xenakis's picture

I've tried to incorporate your advice - that's the situation so far:



What do you think?

Xenakis's picture

... thinned the joints of v, w & y and tried to get rid of the "art-dèco"-proportions auf the s and e...

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