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Hi can anyone help me with finding this font. FLYING LIZARD FMF didn't find it for me.
Also I am looking for a font like in this number 88 lighted sign. If there is one.

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Not a perfect match but you may start with [[http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/typodermic/good-times|Good Times]], simply extending crossbars and that should do the job quite perfectly.
For the second one, have a look to [[http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=302|the LCD category]] at DaFont, you may be lucky...