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rcapeto's picture

Bravo, Nathan. Wait an hour and go ahead.

My apologies. :-/

That wasn't meant to you in particular. ;)
Cheers.

John Hudson's picture

Hmm. Andrea declares Rodolfo the winner but then Rodolfo challenges his own answer within the allowed hour, but his challenge is based on information provided by Andrea when she was declaring him the winner. Is it any wonder the rules have nothing to say to such convoluted circumstances!

I believe the only correct answer to Andrea's question is From Russia with Love, since this film predates Goldfinger and is the only one in which the actual titles of the film are projected onto the body of a dancing woman. So Andrea was wrong to declare Rodolfo the winner.

Andrea is hereby requested to pose another question, on a different theme, within the next 12 hours. Thank you.

rcapeto's picture

BTW. "As the ox turns in the plowing." Explain that
to those who don't know Greek! ;)

rcapeto's picture

Sorry, Quizmaster, but we the people have risen in arms
and toppled your arrogant ancien r

John Hudson's picture

Oh great, I forgot to hit second 'Post this message' button after I wrote that, and now Rodolfo has posed a new question, and it has already been correctly answered. Drat!

Ignore previous message, since you seem to have resolved the situation without my intervention (good, good). Nathan poses the next question.

rcapeto's picture

That's how they always manage to escape! ;)

matteson's picture

Wow. I leave for a cigarette and miss all the great debate. I gotta quit smoking ;-)

Unfortunately, I can't claim to know much about Greek - my answer came from Donald Anderson's Calligraphy: the art of written forms, p. 37, Dover Press. Just good timing really. I happened to be reading it the other day.

So, next question:

There are five (typically used) typographic or punctuation characters in Thai. I suppose some are used more than others. Name the 5 and give their function.

Cheers.

ps: I'm not sure if this violates Rule 9? If so, I'll pose a different question.

matha_standun's picture

Fongman: bullet
Angkhankhu: Terminal punctuation (end of chapters)
Khomut: terminal punctuation (end of a story)
Angkhandeaw: terminal punctuation (end of a sentence/stanza)
Paiyan noi: abbreviation sign

matteson's picture

Absolutely right. In fact, I should've said six since I was thinking of Maiyamok for repitition and not of Angkhandeaw (which is orthographically the same as Paiyannoi).

I doubt there will be a challenge, but I suppose it's only right to wait an hour...

matha_standun's picture

OK, here's a more difficult (and fairly google-proof) one.

In the 1980s, a certain prize winning, English language author wanted large sections of his first novel set in different colours to capture the rhythm of the singing voice. Unfortunately, his publisher refused so he came up with a new system.

Who was the author?
What was the novel?
What was his plan B?

Good luck,

Matha.

hrant's picture

Avital Ronell
"The telephone book"
Plan B: change fonts.

hhp

matha_standun's picture

hint: It's an Irish writer

Isaac's picture

uhh... shane macgowan!

matha_standun's picture

No, not Shane. He's the Irish national rep in drinking contests.

matha_standun's picture

Irish writer, first novel, prize winner (for a different book), singing voice (which rules Shane out for sure)

M.

John Hudson's picture

Author: Roddy Doyle.
Novel: The Commitments.
Plan B: How the fek should I know? I only saw the film. He probably used different typefaces, 'cause that's what I would have done if the cheap bastard publisher wouldn't let me use different colours.

John Hudson's picture

Double post.

matha_standun's picture

You're spot on for the writer and the novel, John, and "How the fek should I know?" is probably the most appropriate answer for the 3rd part of the question, so I'm going to give it to you.

In fact the cheap bastard publisher was also against using different typefaces or even different sizes so he resorted to using uppercase for the songs and fiddling around with the mise en page.

Over to you, my friend, unless there's a challenge, that is.

doyle

Matha

John Hudson's picture

Hang on, wasn't The Commitments self-published? Was Doyle his own cheap bastard publisher?

John Hudson's picture

NEW QUESTION:

Below is an illustration showing three ligatures. What script is this (that's the easy part), and what is the sequence of letters that each ligature represents? For extra marks, identify the punchcutter.

Ligatures

eomine's picture

the script is Greek.
A: gamma + omega
B: alpha + upsilon + tau + omicron + upsilon
C: gamma + epsilon + nu

John Hudson's picture

Eduardo, good shot. You got one of them wrong, but I'm not telling you which one.

eomine's picture

you mean the missing diacritics?

John Hudson's picture

No. One of the sequences of letters. I deliberately left out the diacritics to make the question easier.

eomine's picture

A: gamma + upsilon + nu

John Hudson's picture

Note, however, that the raised hook at the end of the second ligature indicates the presence of a perispomeni. But that's not the mistake you made.

eomine's picture

one more hint, please?

are you sure about A? looking to my reference
here, i actually think my original answer was
wrong.

[btw, it's almost time to log off here. maybe i
come back in some 3 hours, but i'm not sure.]

John Hudson's picture

Eduardo, our last messages crossed, and I missed your second identification of A. You are correct, it is: gamma + upsilon + nu.

I hereby declare you the winner. You have 12 hours in which to pose the next question.

By the way, what was your reference? My are the big Ensched

hrant's picture

Guess?! ;-)

It's Jacob Sabon's "petit texte grec".

hhp

John Hudson's picture

Non, but quite close.

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