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I love the tea-bag thing!

hhp

i need to say thank you to Lemon Verbena Herbal Tea. [the whole thing tea -->tee came from swEE nEE. then the shape of the bag] Mr. Verbena: src="http://www.typophile.com/forums/messages/29/15325.gif" alt="verbena">

well so far I'm liking #1, purely for aesthetic reasons. its toothpasty, yum.

however, I hope the blue and pink isin't meant for boys and girls - cause that's going a bit too cute. the design could be cleaned up some - the detail of it shows alot of areas where line work could be touched up - as well as perhaps spelling it correctly.

personally though I'm looking forward to seeing the more witty ones that have some kind of original concept to them. (nudge nudge, and not the "rip off concepts" we argued about last time)

What's wrong with the big 2* design in the announcement? That one is great! End the contest now!

is there a link to last year's winning tee around here somewhere... can't seem to find one.

Alan - it dosen

I knew i have seen some where... ...anyway it happends some times... It's nice to your inspiration though david

this is an image from THE BIG BOOK OF LOGOS / Editor... David E.Carter

here is a very very similar solution designed by Jose Serrano



CG

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08.005 is my fav so far.

BTW:
- I think this method of having the comments in a separate thread makes things a little bit less convenient.
- What's the rule for resubmitting something from last year?

hhp

I agree 08.005 blew me away. I love it.

-mb

> I agree 08.005 blew me away. I love it.

I must live on a different planet.

i just want to ask what the purpose of linking each design to a country is... It would be fun to have a submissions per country chart generated after the end, but the way it is presented it is either useless or dangerous...
surely the russion 08.005 is the nicest so far. He/she worked with this concept in an excellent manner

> I must live on a different planet.

Finally, somebody else feels that way! :-)

> it is either useless or dangerous.

I agree - if more with the latter. Trusting judges to have typographic objectivity is one thing, but trusting them to have zero nationalism is unrealistic (and I feel even undesirable).

hhp

I'm wondering if 08.005 isin't from Brian McDonough's book, or the concept stolen from Brian - y'no the book that's featured on typophiles splash page for the past 6 months?

why "stolen"? i don't think "stolen" is the right word. especially when the guy/lady can't say a word!!! i can list 20 books with that concept; 150 illustrations/designs with that concept. so? give the guy/lady the credit.....

I agree with David.
As long as the guy doesn't claim he invented the style or something, it's just how culture works.

hhp

ok maybe I was harsh. seemed co-incidental and I wondered if the illustrator of that book, Brian would simply churn out a few for placement on a t-shirt.

is it me, or are a big percentage of the submissions NOT related to typography at all? many many, seem to have the text "typophile" added as an afterthought.

also, i find the designs huge in relation to the tshirt. if printed it would go waaay past my knees ;)

Amen on the huge design coment.
(Of course, I'm 6'5" so you'd be hard pressed to get a shirt past my knees... I know, I know. I look so diminutive in my photo.)

Remember folks, people are three dimensional and your template is laying flat. So even though the design can't go all the way to the seem, if you take the max print area it will be halfway to someone's armpit!

You're welcome to post an great shirt that flies in the face of what I just said!

Randy

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i don't think i posted this, maybe i did.

not to be rude but these submissions are not that engaging. Most of them don't speak about type, let alone convey the essence of typophile. We've got guns and knifes which definately do not speak about typography.

no, i haven't submitted my design yet, but i just thought i'd voice my opinion. it's just frustrating to see so many lackluster submissions. i figured this year would be more intense than last year. however, not all designs have been submitted yet and i realize that. just wanted to rant a little bit.

t1mmy

"Things are at their best in their beginning."
- Blaise Pascal

hhp

>"Things are at their best in their beginning."

Why?

nah - people are holding out

I know of a few at least who don't want to have there's posted before it absolutely has to be (its not a public vote right?)in case others take it and do a spin-off or get ideas based on their concept.

Not nice.

Wanting to win is good, but not at the expense of the organization you're supposedly trying to help out in the first place. Not worrying about spin-offs is the most diluted form of "collaborative design" that we're all supposedly such big fans of...

hhp

Brace yourself, Hrant:

I agree.

hey, I know - I suggested to them its a good idea to post ahead of time in order to get feedback at least and a chance to revise.

oh well - that's just the way some are

hehe, yes we read every comments

I can't wait to see these amazing ideas that this world has never seen before. Ideas that would be worth my copying, instead of having fun designing a t-shirt, and coming up with my own original idea.

Andrew

>I can't wait to see these amazing ideas that this world has never seen before. Ideas that would be worth my copying, instead of having fun designing a t-shirt, and coming up with my own original idea.

haha! me too

hey hey hey chill...I've already told these people they should post ahead of time. I have enough things to do in coming up with mine. I'm not gonna get nasty on them, at least they are submitting theses things... perhaps they are really spending some time on them so whatever...they have until the 30th if that's what they want to do. its not my deal - simply commenting on what perhaps is going on with regard to the quality and quantity so far.

if you wanted for the public to view them all ahead of time for the sake of collaboration and have a revision period - then push back your judging date and mention there's a 2 week period where ALL submissions are up for review, critique and revision.

issue solved.

The comment wasn't directed toward you, Tanya. I just find the idea of copying ludricrous, considering most people in these forums pride themselves on coming up with unique designs.

Anyway, consider me chilled.

> have a revision period

That might be worth considering.

hhp

"Things are at their best in their beginning."
- Blaise Pascal

hrant, out of curiosity and context, what was Pascal
referring to?

Everything.

hhp

Except the "popular winner" last time had the "california job case" text removed... Kind of bummed me out, since I thought it was a great joke about the economy. I mean, subtlety is good if it amplifies the value of what's not said, but not for just its own sake. In that case for example, leaving the text in wouldn't have made it "valuably" less subtle (because anybody who's heard what a California job case is also knows what a type case looks like), and it would have preserved the joke. Without that text, the shirt was just cool, instead of being cool and funny. To be fair though, the shirt was still good without the text.

hhp

Has anyone got any info on tee printing restrictions?

I'm just wondering if you were going to laser print a design onto a tee what is the smallest point size for type you could go to, thinnest stroke for a line etc.

When you say 10 point, you mean full size, as opposed to the template you have - which seems to be 1/3 size or so?

And you guys were saying putting ".com" is cheesy... :-/

I like both ".com" and carrying bags, personally - I have only one of the former for the moment, but like half a dozen of the latter - and this is a nice one. But then I also like cheese.

hhp

The best way to get a tasteful logo-free bag is simple: look outside the US.

Your Incase bag is too hip for me - I left the Bay Area long ago...

hhp

> I wouldn't be put off by size in my judgement.

I would.

Color, composition, scale...design is a sum of parts. Take the time to get it right now. Sure tweaks and refinement are a part of the process, but if someone has made a choice to COVER a shirt with imagery then that choice is integral to the design statement, and should be considered as such.

But Yves seems to be talking about size "mistakes" due to lack of familiarity with designing for a t-shirt, something you can't really learn without doing once - but we don't need to require such particular expertise.

The rules say that a winning shirt might be modified, and I think somebody who realizes his experience with designing for a t-shirt is lacking would probably take the advice.

Yes, if a shirt is totally covered with graphics for example, that's bad news. But something like a 75% resize for a "stand-alone" image should be seen as an open possibility.

hhp

I'd like to see more concepts that are www.typophile.com - centric. I don't mean style, or that it should say dot com. More, that I want a shirt that has a concept firmly planted on what goes on here at typophile. What makes it unique? Why do people post here? Why do people lurk here?

Type in general is fine. Typophililia is fine. Letterpress is fine. Letraset is fine. Fleurons are fine. Give me typophile. This funky place we visit. And give it with a little attention to typography? Please.

Cheers,
Randy

BTW, there are a few out there doing this already. More. More. More. Oh, and keep it out of the armpits :-)

If a shirt is totally covered with graphics that shirt should be sent back to the designer with a mentiont that they didn't follow rules of printability before it gets displayed.

the template does clearly show the "printable area" If they are sizing it to fill that you cannot make any judgement to say the design is too big...it may be their intent.

And if it is their intent - and they are following the critiques offered by the public and take the chance to revise - then that's it.

Just as it would be for say a colour change, or spelling mistake.

The judges selections can't incorporate the idea to change up the organization, location and size of elements - that's mukking with the actual design.

Just wondering. If the deadline is posted as September 30,
wouldn't the cutoff be midnight on September 30?

Also, can you or Joe rundown what the guidelines/dates are
for

1) REVISIONS
a) what constitutes a revision and what are the limits?
b) is it reposted (swapped) in the same thread?

2) WHEN DO THE JUDGES TAKE A LOOK (officially)

3) ARE THERE DIFFERENT ROUNDS of JUDGING?

Can you explain this stuff in greater detail, or did I just miss it
somewhere...

Also, for fun, can we please see the judge's votes
when the whole thing is over.


thanks,

bj

But in what time zone?

hhp