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Disappointing results with Dante at LightningSource POD
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Hello,

Recently I designed a book using Mardersteig's Dante. I have used it in the past with great satisfaction, and it is my favourite font for offset.

The publisher decided to start printing on demand (POD) with Lightning Source, but Dante comes out very pale (see small sample).

I was thinking of using Williams Caslon, as I have bought it recently for another job, but I am afraid it will still be too light.

I looked at Dante Medium, but for some reason the charm of Dante Std is gone.

What alternative would you advice?

This edition uses Lightning Source lightly cream 6x9 format. Type is currently set as 12/14.4.

I was considering using Merlo, but I can't find it in OpenType. Since I am using XeLaTeX, OpenType would help my job considerably.

Thank you for any advice or tips you could spare,

Guido

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Joined: 11 Feb 2015 - 2:16am
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I guess I am a ludite in this respect. I loath Print On Demand, which I like to call Print No Demand, though in two moments of weakness I allowed a publisher to do two books of mine that way (via Lightning Source). Many fonts do not work well with POD. Aldus works. Sabon is ok. That was a few years ago. Of course there are others, and more by now, which work reasonably well. My favourite Centaur wouldn't work. But I loath POD in principle. No edition. Poetry books and academic books spilling out at a tumbling rate, with no financial input, so to speak, from the publisher, largely ignored by book stores and reviewers. Lightning Source (and others) trying to leave their mark discreetly on the last page but with no feeling, no understanding . . . don't let me go on . . . I won't be able to stop.

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Joined: 24 Mar 2015 - 8:25am
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I agree 100%. I would call it "soulless". No soul, no heart, utter inability to convey beauty.

One of the things that kills the type is the subtle shiny gloss left from the toner. Even after weeks it does not go away, like cellophane wrap.

Sadly, I had no choice, the publisher is trying to survive, and POD is one of the ways they are trying.

Having looked carefully to the paper and the toner ink they use, I think I will settle with Merlo, 11.3/14.4. I could change it, but then I would have to adjust the grid, so much work.

Thank you for your notes.

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Thanks GuidoS !