GGrapidograph

guerillagrafik's picture

i made this font - a oneline font to get easy the weights from ultra thin to extrabold. for the moment, there are just the illustrator drawings, no kerning - no spacing. i just want to hear some opinions about the forms, and the mood of the alphabet.
GGrapidograph_reg.gif

Christian Robertson's picture

Even though the face repeatedly uses some obvious devices it still lacks unity. I think the error lies not in the forms themselves, but in the counterforms they create. For example the negative space around the k has no relationship to anything else. The g has similar problems. The extension on the M also causes some awkwardness. The 5 and the G also demonstrate the same idea. While it is obvious the device used to create them, the resulting counterforms are completely inconsistent with the rest of the face.

Another note: the tails on the lc letters feel like they are floating. Try decreasing the angle of the slant and lengthening them.

guerillagrafik's picture

christian
it seems, that you think my typeface is kind of crap. but your critique was really helpful to me and i'm willing to finish the typeface anyway.

so i change quite a lot. the lower case g and k were really strange in the kontext of a text. so i changed them to another mood.
also the slants of the lc letters a,b,d,u i changed so they reach the baseline. the slants of m,n,p,q,r i leave the same as they are.

what do you think
GGrapid_fine.gif

glutton's picture

Thom -- I think you're going in the right direction with this typeface. The only aspect that I find jarring are the ears, such as on the r and m. For me, this is a very smooth font and I don't believe the ears add any readability. Anyone else agree or disagree?

sevenfingers's picture

I agree. Btw, it has an eerie familiar feeling. Anyone used those plastic stencils... uhm, hard to explain. Looks like those though, I like it.

Btw, the new "k" is a huge improvement.

guerillagrafik's picture

john

i agree with you, that this is a smooth font. it was just the intention to get a bit of originality what makes me doing these ears. otherwise i'm afraid this typeface is too techno. i wanted to get a bit of a typwriter mood in it.
do you think these ears are disturbing the other fletters?

and john - what do you think lc "a". i have the impression it is a bit too wide, perhaps it should be a bit more condensed..?
(sorry about my lousy english)
Det_lcA.gif

fonthausen's picture

I think this a very subtle font.

Did you try to use round ears?

What about a solution for your 'k', which is between the 2 samples you've shown us?
I made a little flash-image to show you what I mean.

Jacques

application/x-shockwave-flashkkk.swf
kkk.swf (<1 k)

Christian Robertson's picture

Sorry if I sounded harsh. I try to say it as I
see it. I do think the face has some good stuff
going on. I also think you are heading in the
right direction. Now all you need is something to
make the face stand out from all of the other
lineal geometrics out there.

I actually think that the ears are a start in that
direction. When set in copy I think they give the
face a unique feel. They still feel a little abrupt,
but I think they are the key. Is there a subtle way
to incorporate the feel of the ears' kinked line
other places in the face (like the caps)? For
example, what if the arm of the E and the F were
to bend slightly? I'm just throwing out ideas now.
Good job. Keep it up (I don't think that it is crap.
Just a work in progress:)

guerillagrafik's picture

allright - thanks to everybody. it is good to get critique for workin hard. i'm still sitting behind the face, and made some experiments, about the ears, and found with it also a solution to change the general form - just a little bit, but with this changement, i think, i found perhaps a way to make my GGrapidograph stand out from all the other linear geometric faces out there - like christian said.

i hope you guys are still helping me to develop my font to a good end, so i can finish it, and agree with it.

application/x-shockwave-flashGGrapidograph03.swf
ggrapidograph03.swf (8 k)

sevenfingers's picture

I suggest a merge between the lowest samples (nr 4) and the ones at the top. Just a small bend on the tails (?) would be good...

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