Archive through September 26, 2003

Primary tabs

60 posts / 0 new
Last post
d's picture
d
Offline
Joined: 30 May 2003 - 11:00am
0

William,

sorry. since he studied history. ans since — i guess — he is teaching history  — you can’t just post “Steven Heller and Prejudice” without knowing the real history of the Swastika!!!!


and he didn’t post, let’s say : The Swastika and Prejudice.

and then compare what Heller wrote. What Quinn wrote. etc. etc. and then. and only then — we all can learn about the issue. and REALLY talk about prejudice!!!!


[if you want i can email you about the books — but not here]


David Hamuel

Matha Stand�n's picture
Offline
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 - 5:13am
0

The “real” history? I don’t claim to know the real history of anything, David.

And are you the same David Hamuel who was posting yesterday? The prejudice in question is mine. Remember? “Irrational prejudice against Steven Heller”? Ring any bells?

And please stop repeating yourself.

Matha.

Matha Stand�n's picture
Offline
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 - 5:13am
0
William Berkson's picture
Offline
Joined: 26 Feb 2003 - 11:00am
0

>not here

Why not?

I think everyone posting here would be interested if these other books have something that sheds light on the swastika and prejudice, whether against the swastika or against Heller’s judgment on it.

Anonymous's picture
Offline
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm
0

This thread sucks.

Anonymous's picture
Offline
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm
0

Matha, [ edited ] What are you doing? What book did you write?

[ Consistent with the informal Typophile Constitution, this post has been edited to remove personal attacks. ]

Joe Pemberton's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Apr 2002 - 3:36pm
0

[ Regarding the editing of posts. Unfortunately, when
people make attacks we edit them. In this case, it may
seem as if we favor the opinions of those who have
identified themselves. This is not the intent. Please
attack the issue, not the person. ]

Joe Pemberton's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Apr 2002 - 3:36pm
0

I agree with you Hrant, about blackletter. It has a heritage
and an aesthetic that doesn’t deserve to be forever usurped
by the Nazis. That said, it will be a very, very long time
before you see major corporations, large organizations or
governments use it. And who could blame them? Certainly I won’t.

The swastika, though? Does graphic design really need a
swastika as part of our visual palette of elements? I don’t
think anybody is suggesting that. (I hope they aren’t.)

Joe Pemberton's picture
Offline
Joined: 8 Apr 2002 - 3:36pm
0

BJ, good point. I feel corrected about corporations not
using it…

I don’t know that anybody’s still usurping blackletter. I’m
just saying it doesn’t deserve to be as taboo as the swastika
(is this what Heller is suggesting?). And yes, I’m saying the
swastika is still taboo because hate groups still use it and
it still holds its emotional power… at least where I come from.