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Nice work from the contributing artists here. I especially like Tim Daly

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Fixed the stress.

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Thanks Bill,
Now all I need is to find a practical application for it.
T

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HI guys

Just new to this forum and I really like the ambigrams that you made here.
How do you do that? do you use a certain program? How do you edit the fonts?
Is there a ‘simple mirroring program’?

thnx

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Well, I worked on paper to work out the rough ideas and then transferred it to Illustrator to draw and revise, drawing the first half and then rotating or reflecting it and altering it and finally join the two halves. I don’t start off with a font just a calligraphic thought.
Tim

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thnx Tim
so you actually draw everything….

for example: the one you posted on october 11th.
how do you get it with all the long curls and stuff.
Really great.

Though it shouldn’t be too hard to make a program that automatically mirrors it. So all you see will show immediately in mirror -> easy adjusting

I will try some things
Want to work out a nice one for my american football team ‘Amsterdam Crusaders’ or ‘Crusaders’. For a t-shirt
and of course the name of every beautiful girl I meet ;-)

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The long curls just developed themselves because I needed to make the descenders of the p separate when read upsidedown. I find it a lot quicker to draw them out on paper first and make amends as I’m going, plus I can turn the paper around faster than Illustrator

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haha..
Hope it will impress the girls

I installed illustrator. tried working with it, but there are so many options that I find it quite difficult to get it the way I want.
Isn’t there a short tutorial on how to adjust the fonts?

What is the font you are using? of a good font to start with?

This is my ambigram for the name
DANIELLE

Ambigram DANIELLE

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That is a great start, works well and is legible (as
legible as this kind of thing gets). I would take this scan
into Illustrator and start drawing it up, the only comment
I would make is that the slopes on the n should be a
similar weight to the crossbars.
I understand about the confusion that Illustrator can
produce, but use will help. As for getting started in
Illustrator, Leslie Carbarga’s The Logo, Font, and
Lettering Bible, (http://www.logofontandlettering.com/)
this book is a good place to start, although I would
recommend using layers

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Hey ya’ll, I just recently got super interested in ambigrams…check these out and let me know what you think:ambigram of the word ambigramambigram of the name Ashleigh

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I just started making ambigrams, and I wondered what you all think of my first one. It is one of my name: aafke. I’m Dutch, so I don’t think you can read my name, but I hope you at least like the ambigram.

Aafke

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Hij doet het hoor! I think the first ‘e’ is too obvious, but your name is a hard one to do…

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This makes a nice image, however, some suggestions to improve legibility if you add a spur to the bottom of the a, flip the f so that the serif overhangs to the right, and connect the leg of the k to the counter of the a and try aligning it with the baseline of the first a and last e, and lastly the centre of your background image has a circle which is distracting.
Tim

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Micheal Young wrote:
“This seemed like fun so I gave it a try, I have a lot of homework this weekend, so I couldn’t give it too much of my time, but It’s in a pretty decent state.”

Congratulations. Yours is the first that didn’t look like “Typou Badly” to me. I was looking in google for ambigrams, and that’s what I thought it said at first. Intrigued, I came here, and wow! Nice artwork, people! =D

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I’ve been struggling with this one for a while. Any help is greatly appreciated.

I think this is more along the lines of what Mr. Langdon calls a “Symbiotogram”. It’s intended for the logo for an editorial piece called “Myriad” — which is about all “people”.

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myoung's ambigram is by far the most legible... nice work

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Hello, I was pleased to have found this forum of like minded people... here is an ambigram of HappyBirthday
... Peace

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Love it
Tim

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How do you insert an image so that it can be viewed on the forum... cheers?

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David, that's one of the best -and most useful- I've ever seen.

hhp

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Thank you...

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Since the redesign images cannot be inserted in any replies to posts, I believe/hope this will change as the Beta problems are ironed out.
Tim

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Oh, hey, it's the thread that originally led me to Typophile (via site referral logs). I've done quite a few since then.

Breck, here is a quick sketch of my solution, containing some aspects you might not have thought of.

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Some quite impressive ambigrams you got there, Kevin..
( I particularly like 'Riegler', 'Wonderland' and '312'.. Respect.. )

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What do you think about the 'Illuminati' ambigram in the Da Vinci Code? Do you think that the way Dan Brown has used the ambigram works well within the story?

It has been implied that the Illuminati were aware of ambigrams. How much truth do you believe there is in this?

There was a mystic called Abraham Abulafi (c.1240-1292), who used a method to combine letters, reversing and rolling them around to achieve a state of 'wisdom and knowledge'. I wonder if there is any evidence that secret societies used wordlplay.

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Dan Brown, as much as I love how he has sent the masses to Google in search of ambigrams they can get tattooed, is not a historian. His approach to fiction is that if there is anything he personally does not know, he makes something up, even if a little research would tell him something different. It is safe to say that the reason ambigrams appear in the book is that John Langdon shares a name with Brown's protagonist, Robert Langdon, and that brought them together.

But of course secret societies use wordplay. The "ICHTHUS" acronym comes from the time when Christianity was a secret society.

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By wordplay I was referring to ambigrams, and the secret society the Illuminati... as Dan Brown claims that the 'Illuminati understood the symmetry of ambigrams'.

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Here is a blog of some of my ambigrams

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I thought that I'd register and post since I'm the ambigram artist of ambigram.net

Here is my best design: Jonathan.

Mark's ambigram of the word "Ambigram" above is excellent - I've been wanting to draw an ambigram of this word for a while but have not found a pleasing solution yet. I'm very jealous!

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The Happy Birthday ambigram is great! And a lot of people making them for their girlfriends... I hope it starts a trend of giving them as gifts.

:-)

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I've just updated John Langdon's site
with this new awesome Aerosmith
ambigram. Does anybody have the new book? Other gems in there as well.

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I’ve just updated John Langdon’s site
with this new awesome Aerosmith
ambigram. Does anybody have the new book? Other gems in there as well.

I'm surprised that this was not up on his site sooner...as I saw it displayed in the annual ANNX design competition at Drexel spraypainted onto the floor. This is an excellent piece, too bad it was never really used! (according to John) I should be getting the book for xmas, it's on my wishlist anyways!

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Ah, You're a Dragon! What year? Representing class of '04. When I first arrived, the CoMad office had a "media arts" ambigram on the floor under the entrance. Is that still around anywhere?

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I'm class of '07. I haven't seen that around, it's probably gone. I work with John on his comissioned ambigrams since he's so busy, he sends me sketches and I digitze/refine them if need be. It's neat seeing what he's doing.

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That's funny... I guess you replaced me when I started the website. Get at me when you need a coOp. We need more type-conscious people at my place.

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Get at me when you need a coOp. We need more type-conscious people at my place.

I'm actually working at RCA Records in NYC as we speak (well not this minute but I'm already on my co-op cycle.) Where are you working? I'm always interested in contacts for after school.

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RCA Records sounds fun...I'm at TMX Communications in Conshohocken. Doing interactive work, but moving towards print advertising.

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Something more interesting/useful than an
ambigram can be seen in the last image here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4499406.stm

It doesn't seem really well executed though.

hhp

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hrant: Langdon actually does Symbiotagrams that are along that idea...where the word is flipped and it becomes the opposite. True/False etc. I've done a black/white one but it was a little iffy at one point so i never 'finished' it..just have the sketch in my sketch book.

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> Langdon actually does Symbiotagrams

Good to know. Even better would be if
he found a nicer term for the things. :-)

BTW, I don't see why the two should
be opposite; anything that says some-
thing else when flipped is already cool.

hhp

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He's got all sorts of examples of 'irregular' ambigrams, his Philosophy ambigram turns upside down and says Art & Science, he's done figure/ground relationships etc....look here for a few examples: http://johnlangdon.net/asymmetrical.html I think he enjoys playing with the words that the names don't really matter as much as the beauty of the final product. :-)

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Wow, now that's my kind of stuff! Very nice - thanks for pointing that out.

hhp

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No problem!

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Hey! Cool! I hadn’t seen the scottkim site before. I have John’s book, his stuff does make you think.

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Kenn — I am embarassed to say, that I don’t recall. It has been a while since I last looked through it. However, I will look at it tonight when I get home. Mr. Langdon is a very nice person. Extremely so. If you have questions, I’m sure he would answer them.

Unlike most of you, I don’t have the luxury of working from home. I work in an office that is separate from my home. Not completely different from Dilbert. :^\

Mark — Nice!!! :-)

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:: kicks self ::

How did I miss this entire thread?!

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Because it initially just said HOLY SH*T instead of
something like KICK-A$$ AMBIGRAMS. :-)