is this some kind of Calson?

nc

yep, i’m gonna say Caslon Small Caps.

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It’s not Caslon I think, look the bottom of the C. Caslon has sometime a serif, this COCTEAU TWINS not. Caslon has a slant serif on the arm of the T, COCTEAU not.

>edit: sorry about the link
>edit: Caslon has sometime and sometime not a serif on the bottom of the caps C

André,
sorry, but your link is messed up so i couldn’t go to the site.

i did find similar features in Adobe Caslon All Caps

the apex of the a isn’t as pronounced our specimin here, but i definately think that there is some sort of Caslon connection.

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I still not sure about Caslon. I do not find the slant serif on the T Cocteau as Caslon T has. I continue my search.

Is this link work better:
http://www.myfonts.com/search?search%5Btext%5D=caslon

which one?

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This one:
http://www.myfonts.com/search?search%5Btext%5D=caslon

the link works, but which typeface are you suggesting? there are several to choose from.

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(i will am leaving the office and will check back when i get home, cheers)

They’re close, but i don’t know... I’m pretty sure i’ve been along this line before, its frustrating knowing that its there but just not quite... It could well be version i didn’t check out -i’m guessing this sample is from the early nineties which would seem to rule out the recent revised caslon co ones...

The is S is the character that got me, whenever i was close that S would just be there all squat sitting up there at the end, it just didn’t match up -maybe an artifact as a result of being reversed out..?

It’s some version of Imprint. Bitstream’s version, Dutch 766, is the most similar that I found.

think they might have faked the small caps by adding a small stroke to the letters at the smaller point size (which might explain the rounding/softening of the serifs)?

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>the link works, but which typeface are you suggesting? there are several to choose from.

I just want to show you there no one T of thoses Caslon are similar to your COCTEAU TWINS. I think it might be a Caslon with a custom T.

Nah, I think Mark nailed it.

Not sure, check the slanted serifs on the cap T of the Dutch766. My guess is that you won’t find an exact match in digital type. Did Vaughan Oliver work with a computer in those days?

That’s what I think. The T seems not to be a Caslon face.

The T is the only character that differs from the samples of Imprint that I’ve found, but I think this is simply a matter of which size of the metal version was used as the basis of whatever version this is. The differences are also very small. (Ironically, Monotype’s is the most different of all.) If you have a copy of Jaspert’s Ecyclopaedia of Type Faces, check out the sample on page 120.

Thanks Mark for the great precision and to share your knowhow with us.

thank you Mark.

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btw
hope you all have a happy and safe Thanksgiving

I just wanted to say thanks for all the indepth comments from you guys, the site was real busy yesterday each time i tried to access, so couldn’t thank you earlier... i think i can finally rest on this one now. So thank you all.

I think Hannes is right, Vaughn i think, did resist the introduction of computers, and that would probably explain the funky t... I guess what your saying was that it was blown up from a smaller sample than the rest of the type...

Would Jaspert’s book be a good investment for a budding typophile? - I have been waiting for the new fontbook to come out, if it ever will... Is there one referance book to rule them all so to speak?

Many thanks again...

Jaspert (as we aficionados like to call it) is an excellent book for seeing samples of American and European metal faces. The main drawback to me is that some of the samples are only a few words. Still, there are faces in there I’ve never seen anywhere else.