Any good Rules?

MickM
12.Dec.2005 5.26am
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I just subscribed to “typophile.com” and I’m in the middle of de-codifiying the whole font creation thing (being still a student) I have been looking into a number of commercial books for guidelines but none of them offeer some basic rules of the trade like standard optical corrections that each letter needs, kerning specifications... my typography teacher has a do-it-you-self style that is good to begin with but not of much use any more....

If you had to name one book that kind of sums the whole thing up, which would that be?

Any other web sites that might offer guide lines?

Plus does any one know wich fonts Nat West uses?



thierry blancpain
12.Dec.2005 5.28am
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THIS is a good place to get started.


elliot100
12.Dec.2005 5.38am
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NatWest (UK bank) fonts are proprietary, I recall using them for a freelance project for them many years ago.


vinceconnare
12.Dec.2005 6.49am
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Yes the Natwest font is a propriety custome font made by Dalton Maag... along time ago...


Nick Shinn
12.Dec.2005 10.30am
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I thought it was by The Foundry (Quay/Sacks).


vinceconnare
12.Dec.2005 11.01am
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http://www.dama.arachsys.com/clients/index.live

I think this isn’t on the live page but is on the old page....


Nick Shinn
12.Dec.2005 11.22am
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They both seem reluctant to claim credit.
One would expect Dalton Maag to trumpet it a bit more if they had designed it.
But given The Foundry’s “light” presence on the Internet, only showing their retail fonts, I’m inclined to think it’s theirs. Plus, it doesn’t seem like the kind of thing DM would do.


elliot100
12.Dec.2005 2.01pm
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Just pulled the fonts from the project archive and two of the files have these copyright lines (others appear to have this info missing):

“Copyright © 1993 Wolff Olins, designed by David Quay Design, co-designed and digitised by Dalton•Maag”

“© 1993 Wolff Olins, designed by F. Sack and D. Quay, digitised by Bruno Maag”


MickM
13.Dec.2005 9.15am
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Thanks gyus, eh, back to a good book about designing fonts???


paul d hunt
13.Dec.2005 9.22am
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i don’t know that there is an authoritative, all-inclusive tome on this subject, but there are some resources that will help you get started. I’d check out Leslie Cabarga’s Logo, Font & Lettering Bible.
Also check out Drawing_How-To for links to resources on the web.


alexfjelldal
15.Dec.2005 8.26am
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“Schriftschreiben/schriftzeichnen” by Eugen Nerdinger (sic!) and Lisa Beck. Very thorough book an the anatomy of the western alphabet, and it distinguishes between writing and drawing letters. In german, though, and i think it’s out of print. i was able to buy my copy on a german online 2nd hand bookstore.


MickM
16.Dec.2005 9.12am
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Thanks a lot... I have actually heard about it... Is it out in English? Where do you think I could find it?

Worst case scenario could you print a couple of pages and send them via mail (I know I’m asking for a lot but I am really interested to see how technically deep can one go about formulating rules in Typography)

Thanks again.


alexfjelldal
20.Dec.2005 12.27am
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no idea if its available in english. try http://www.antbo.de/ for 2nd hand books. i searched for six months or so before i found it, so be patient ;)


thierry blancpain
20.Dec.2005 5.39am
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check out www.choosebooks.com - 2nd hand books, also from german/swiss sources. well, there were three sources - the one in switzerland is just gone :) sorry, the book sounded good, so i just bought it.


hrant
31.Dec.2005 10.50am
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Karen Cheng’s imminent “Designing Type” seems to be worth a serious look too.

hhp


k.l.
11.Mar.2007 1.25am
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These two books by Doyald Young seem to be good.

Also have a look at TypeCulture’s Academic Resources; the section Articles and Essays also covers spacing and related matters.


Steven Wulf
11.Mar.2007 11.46am
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clauses
11.Mar.2007 1.09pm
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I can recommend Karen Cheng’s ’designing type’. Nice visual reference with many pointers to details that you can research further on your own. A beginners bible.