Bringhurst editions

typequake's picture

My library carries the 1996 edition, but I understand there is a newer, 2004 edition. Obviously centuries of knowledge haven't changed, but can anybody tell me if there are significant differences?

Thanks.

Thomas Phinney's picture

He's on edition 2.5 or 3 now.

I'm looking at a 1992 first edition and a 1999 revised second edition right now. The second edition is a hundred pages longer, so I'd say it's obvious there are significant differences (or at least additions) between those two.

The revised second edition has about 40 pages that have corrections or additions compared to the regular second edition.

I think that the current version is actually "edition 2.5" as of 2002 or so, and has moderate noticeable changes compared to the second edition, mostly in areas that have to do with things that have changed due to technical advances (e.g. OpenType). However, my most recent copy is at work, so I can't check easily.

Regards,

T

david h's picture

> I think that the current version is actually “edition 2.5” as of 2002 or so...

You're right Thomas.

paul d hunt's picture

the current version is 3.0 and was published October 2004.

I have the 2.5 version, which was published in 2002.

The current version has some interesting tables and reference material not available in previous editions regarding accented characters and some unicode stuff, if i remember correctly.

albertoxic's picture

The current version of Bringhurst's book is 3.0, published at the end of 2004 in hardcover and paperback.

The hardcover edition is really a little gem, definitely worth the extra dollars.

thierry blancpain's picture

i got the hardcover of 3.0 a few days ago. it has 382 pages.

there's the following note:

This version of the third edition incorporates emendations to pages 91, 119, 182, 246, 288, 295, 303, 306, 311, 317, 318, 361-364, 373 and 381. (if thats any help to you). i just flipped through a few of the "changed" pages, and there's not much that i'd say really changed in the last years. most of the changes seem to be about the different accents.

david h's picture

> there’s not much that i’d say really changed in the last years.

why not? he wrote more about Hebrew (maybe not a lot....)

dan_reynolds's picture

What did he add about Hebrew?

david h's picture

not so much - but why to complain, better than nothing: Ismar David (or Itmar), and Henri Friedlaender - Hasassah.

Let's wait to the next edition...maybe he'll explore more. As Hermann Zapf wrote: The work of Ismar David can always be identified by his characteristic style, which manifests itself in his myriad endeavors in graphics, book work, calligraphy, and architectural design.

hrant's picture

I heard the next edition will be illustrated (I mean by like
a guy, not just tables and stuff). Must be a poetry thing.

hhp

eston's picture

kesh,

Are you sure that your version isn't 3.1? I have 3.1 on my desk with changes to the same pages and a copyright date in 2005.

If yours says 3.0, I wonder why they incremented for the one that I have if the changes are similar.

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

Are you sure that your version isn’t 3.1?

Thanks for clearing up that doubt, eston. I could have sworn I saw a copy of the 3.1 edition in a store a couple of weeks ago, but could not find any reference to it online when reading this thread. The funny thing is that only a few days later, I saw a hardcover copy of the 3.0 edition in another store -- very perplexing!

I heard the next edition will be illustrated (I mean by like a guy, not just tables and stuff). Must be a poetry thing.

Or a style manual thing. Is this a new trend, and is it really necessary? ;-)

eston's picture

The funny thing is that only a few days later, I saw a hardcover copy of the 3.0 edition in another store — very perplexing!

Well, if it makes you feel any better, I just read through the first 65 pages of my v3.1 today. For the entire first chapter, only every other set of pages (one side of each piece of paper) is printed. Oddly enough, you'd expect the same near the end of the book, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

Oh, the irony in having a defectively-printed version of a book about typography. I'm not returning it, either. :)

Is this a new trend, and is it really necessary?

Considering that Bringhurst cites Strunk and White as his inspiration for ETS, maybe he's just trying to keep up with S&W's publishers. I've still got my old copy of the Elements of Style. I personally find the illustrated edition to be rather unnecessary.

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

For the entire first chapter, only every other set of pages (one side of each piece of paper) is printed. Oddly enough, you’d expect the same near the end of the book, but it doesn’t seem to be the case.

That's because the book is comprised of a series of 32-page signatures. Look at the top or bottom of the book, near the spine, and you will see the signatures and how they fold. Or, open up the book at pages 16-17 (or 48-49) and look at the spread's gutter: you will see the sewing that keeps those 32 pages together. (I have a copy of version 2.4 here, and it is made up of 11 signatures.)

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

So, it sounds like only the first two signatures in your copy (i.e., 64 pages) are defective.

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

Bringhurst cites Strunk and White as his inspiration for ETS...

You know, I just finished reading a book called Being Logical -- A Guide to Good Thinking, by D.Q. McInerny. It's about logic, as you might expect, and it too was inspired by the Strunk & White manual. Let's hope they don't try to make an illustrated version of it!

thierry blancpain's picture

oh my, i dont know how i could possibly look at the book, write down the changes and still not see the "1" behind the 3. :)
yes, its 3.1

Chris Rugen's picture

Ricardo, are you making a reference to Maria Kalman's The Elements of Style Illustrated?

Ricardo Cordoba's picture

Chris,

Yup -- I had posted a link to its Amazon page up there, but you've gone directly to the source with your link!

:-)

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