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brian jaramillo's picture
Joined: 3 Nov 2001 - 11:00am
Archive through December 30, 2001

A new thread. Top 10 Favorites. About 53 more minutes to post.


Soren Olsen's picture
Joined: 6 Dec 2001 - 1:40am

 ??I would bring with me to a deserted island

1. Gill Sans
For its timeless uniqueness and likeability

2. Linotype Frutiger Condensed
For its 100% clarity. Perfect for signage.

3. Verdana
I need a good font for my browser — and we were allowed to bring our G4, remember?

4. Linotype Univers Condensed
I may be the sole inhabitant on the island, but sooner or later I will have the need to publish a catalogue or a list. Univers Condensed will come in handy.

5. PMN Caecilia
At the moment I can’t stand the sight of it. But this typeface is *so good* that I simply must bring it.

6. Lexicon
I have never used this font. I have never owned it. By choosing it to this forum I hope that some yuletime-spirited guy at Enschedé will *give* it to me. In return I shall study it closely.

7. Tate Gallery Corporate Typeface (Wolff Olins)
God, it’s beautiful! Recently I asked about it in Typophile Forum Type Identification Board. One of you guys said it resembled both VAG and DIN.

8. Minion
As good a text face as any when treated right.

9. ITC Bodoni
I guess I can’t do without a good Bodoni.

10. Parisine
I greatly admire the work of JFP!

brian jaramillo's picture
Joined: 3 Nov 2001 - 11:00am

My list is influenced by a background in magazine and t-shirt design, and an affinity for display work. I could not settle on an order for these ten.


Anisette by Porchez
Art Deco Beauty.

Biblon by Storm
So much to love, especially the inconsistencies that he manages to keep consistent and the feeling that the letters were ‘inked’ by a hand-letterer. Download a pdf.

Hoefler Fetish No. 338 by Hoefler
I can look at this all day. Type candy.

The Royal Family by Giasson
A ingenious mix of DIN and fraktur, the Royal Family is another well-executed Thirstype face. On the job when a particular mall-based chain of goth music stores needs a T-shirt design.

Radio by Rakeng
Was there ever a face worth waiting for, what was it, three years? :)

Poetica by Slimbach
Not just another swashbuckling chancery face, Poetica rises above because of its completeness and attention to detail. The alternates and ligatures and ornaments…so much beautiful stuff.

Zapfino by Zapf
Linotype says it better than I can: “A masterpiece from the master himself.” What they really meant was: Typorgasm.

The Shire Types by Tankard
A classic in the making. Would love to see these carved out of…coal and hold them in my hands. Would love to see this used more here in the States. I love the fixed height for both uppers and lowers, and the variations.

Sauerkrauto by Core
Lettering based on Germany’s license plates? You’d think this was a throwaway font, but such care has been placed on getting it perfect. On the cover of WIRED last month.

Mantinia by Carter
I love the mix of points and curves. Also, the lovely descenders on the ‘Q’ and ‘R’ are songs of the siren.

Faces from the past decade regrettably not included:

Oz by Chester (thirstype.com)
SuperDuper by Rakeng (thirstype.com)
**((Alchemy by Tankard (typography.net) Mason by Barnbrook (emigre.com), Idiosynoptium by Griek (www.plusism.u-net.com)))**
most anything by Storm (stormtype.com)
most anything by Rian Hughes
anything by Rodrigo Cavazos (psyops.com)
faces by Jim Parkinson, Jim Marcus and Chank Diesel

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am

Partly because it’s so hard to narrow the list down to 10, this list isn’t exactly my top 10 *individual* favorites, it’s more like the 10 faces that come together to paint my favorite picture.

1. Centaur (Jenson, Rogers) — First real font.

2. Galliard (Granjon, Carter) — One giant on another’s shoulders.

3. Perpetua (Gill) — The pure essence of Latin.

4. Electra (Dwiggins) — Depths yet to be fathomed.

5. Rotis (Aicher) — Classiest, gutsiest babe this side of Berlin.

6. Lexicon (de Does) — Function and Style living in total bliss.

7. Quadraat (Smeijers) — Youthful energy plus ancient wisdom.

8. Colorado (Mandel) — Trench warfare, but with panache.
Very hard to find a specimen, but here’s something:

9. Salome (Schulz) — The organic rebirth of humanity.
I guess the only real place to see it is in “Alphabook”:

10. Mis-hafi (Al-Saadi, Diwan) — Zapfino, eat your heart out.

BONUS for 2001:
Compatil (Linotype) — Intelligent ambition.


Stephen Coles's picture
Joined: 14 May 2001 - 11:00am

Here are my top 10, with the disclaimer that this
list changes almost weekly. Yeah, I’m late. I
promise not to be influenced by the posts above,
having only skimmed over them.


Verdana — I can’t get used to anything else on
my screen.

Knockout — I’ve used this more than any single
family. It’s amazingly versatile with a nod to
the warm wood type of the past.

Avenir — The geometry and clarity of Futura, only
less austere.


Poynter Oldstyle — Emminently readable. Weights
that don’t increase the width allow for quick
changes in color.

FB Californian — The best of Goudy. I will set
all my poetry about my dreary fate on the
deserted island in this family.


Freehand 521 — Retro.

Sloop — Formal.


Bauer Topic/Futura Steile — It’s just so cute.
I will cheat and bundle Futura Display here
for poster makin’.

Dante Titling — Lovely proportions for large
sizes. The alternative in a world where Trajan
is used for everything but bubblegum wrappers.

Farao — My new favorite Egyptienne. Good for
tough, bold jobs when it’s big, and sparkle when
it’s small.


Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am

Ooops, I forgot to say this: my list is chronological.


Soren Olsen's picture
Joined: 6 Dec 2001 - 1:40am

Hey, what happened? I expected an overwhelming number of postings within the first few hours.

Soren O

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am

Welcome to the fervently participatory world of type discussion forums.


Martin Archer's picture
Joined: 5 Sep 2001 - 12:31pm

I would participate, but I only noticed this thread had begun 3 days ago, and I’m too busy right now to devote any time to make a contribution. Besides, I don’t see why there had to be such a strict and early deadline, not to mention the fact that this isn’t exactly the best time of year for widespread participation in something like this. The new year would have been better.

brian jaramillo's picture
Joined: 3 Nov 2001 - 11:00am

Not to fret, not to worry. Add to the list whenever you get a chance, this year, next year. The thread never ends. There is no strict deadline.


» The reason for the ‘deadline’ seemed obvious, but I guess not because we went from ‘greatest’ faces to ‘favorite’ faces. If you are posting a ‘greatest’ list, then you want lists that are not influenced by others, thus everyone posts at a certain time. Favorites, it doesn’t really matter. So by all means post, this year, next year, whenever. As you can see, the ‘strict’ deadline was not a deadline at all. (By the way, the first post was made on Dec. 6.) Personally, I’m learning a lot about type, getting exposure to great opinions and having, uh, fun. I don’t see a reason to be sore.

» I was going to make a couple of suggestions to enrich the Typophile community. If you ‘interract remotely’ then every time there is a post at Typophile, it sends a copy to your email address. If you do not choose this option, and want to see what’s going on since you last visited, click on ‘Search_Last Day, or _Last Week or _Last Visit.”


Anders Wikstr's picture
Joined: 30 Sep 2001 - 3:12am

Here goes my list, a little late. I just didn

Ricardo Santos's picture
Joined: 1 Jun 2001 - 9:49pm

Here goes my list too which don’t have a order, all are very important for me and to the typography history. Sorry about I did’t mention others that contributed for the big transformations around the typography design and our social and intelectual environmment during the time. This list is some of the type faces that I most admire which one for their resons ( Function=Purpose, Form, Legibilty ).

1_Univers — Adrian Frutiger
2_Meta — Erik Spekermann
3_Bembo — Francesco Griffo
4_ Gill Sans — Eric Gill
5_ Bodoni — Giambattista Bodoni
6_ Jenson — Nicholas Jenson
7_ Scala — Martin Majoor
8_Bembo — Francesco Griffo
9_Baskerville — John Baskerville
10_Hoefler Text — Jonathan Hoefler

Regards for all / Ricardo Santos

Michael Surtees's picture
Joined: 31 Oct 2001 - 4:08pm

I’m going to be a little different with my list, top five fonts loaded in my atm that I’m waiting patiently to use some day… (maybe)

Jesus Loves You
Lust’s Razor

Martin Archer's picture
Joined: 5 Sep 2001 - 12:31pm

Sorry to be a curmudgeon here (and I still don’t have time to contribute my own ten favorites) but if you’re going to post a list here, then shouldn’t you include links so we can all see examples of the fonts in your lists?

Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am

Yes, please!


brian jaramillo's picture
Joined: 3 Nov 2001 - 11:00am

Inexcusable Typophile blunder: using the word ‘decenders’ instead of ‘tails’ in describing Mantinia.


someone enterprising want to start a glossary thread for low-level typophiles?

Jacques Le Bailly's picture
Joined: 21 Dec 2001 - 2:09pm

Hi all,
do you the book *emotional digital*? If not, it is a book in which a lot of different typefoundries are being presented. On top of that, they put a list online with links of the presented foundries: http://www.emodigi.de/

Following typefaces should not be forgotten either:

TEFF Renard (The Italic is just it!!!)
Trump Mediæval
DTL Fleischmann


Hrant H Papazian's picture
Joined: 3 May 2000 - 11:00am

“Used”?! Like with a few “1” bits eroded to zeros with wear and tear?…

Seriously: some font prices can seem too high to some people — and no matter what certain type designers might tell you, it’s not your fault.


Anonymous's picture
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm

I divided my list into my top ten favorite TEXT faces, and my top ten favorite DISPLAY faces, as comparing between the two seemed unrealistic. Even this distinction is subjective, admittedly, as fonts from one category could easily fit into the other (and, in fact, a few are listed in both).

These lists reflect the way I use the fonts most of the time, and they reflect my thinking as of today. If we were to post this list again in a week, it’s likely that my selections would be slightly different. I surprised myself with the excellent fonts that I considered (and use quite often), but DIDN’T include, among them: Akzidenz Grotesk, Baskerville, Bodoni, Caslon (Adobe, Berthold, or Caslon 540), Centaur, Century, Cochin, Franklin Gothic, Galliard, Helvetica Neue, Italian Old Style, Kabel (not ITC’s), Officina, Meta, Syntax, Triplex and Walbaum.

I also refrained from including my own designs in this list.


#10: BOOKMAN / OLD STYLE (Ludlow, 1925; Merganthaler-Linotype, 1936; Agfa-Monotype ?)
(No direct link available; search at fonts.com)

AGFA-Monotype has the best version that I’ve found; Bitstream’s is okay. Avoid ITC’s parody.

#9: PLANTIN (Agfa-Monotype

Anonymous's picture
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm

Whoops. It was pointed out to me quite correctly that I neglected to credit the US Federal Highway Administration for the design of the FHWA Series fonts, which are the standard typefaces used for highway signs in the US, and the inspiration for my #10 display face choice, Interstate.

I haven’t yet been able to track down the name(s) of the designer(s) of the FHWA Series, nor its design date.

I believe the following information may have been posted elsewhere on the Typophile Forums, but I can’t recall where. It’s fairly interesting stuff nonetheless. According to Richard C. Moeur’s website (http://members.aol.com/rcmoeur/alphabet.html):

“The standard typefaces used for highway signs in the US are defined in the ‘Standard Alphabets for Highway Signs’, published by the Federal Highway Administration.”

Apologies for the omission.


Anonymous's picture
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm

Please join my little typographical inquiry at http://euro.typo.cz and fill in your top 10 typefaces. All of you will be informed about results (if you insert your e-mail address). Today, there are abour 200 answers from all around the world. The deadline is on Sunday. Thank you forr cooperation! Filip Blazek, Czech design critic and designer

Anonymous's picture
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm

It’s really hard to determine a top10…
I couldn’t even make an order, so i just list them:

Interstate — Tobias Frere-Jones
Gill Sans — Eric Gill
Scala Sans — Martin Majoor
Knockout — Jonathan Hoefler
Eidetic Neo — Rodrigo Cavazos
Vendetta — John Downer
Thesis The Sans — Luc(as) de Groot
Alchemy — Jeremy Tankard
Janson Text — Adobe (after Nicolas Kis)
Garamond Condensed - Adobe

Anonymous's picture
Joined: 6 Mar 2002 - 1:06pm

Is there somebody who or someplace that sells quality used typefaces like these — not the “300 on a CD” cheapo sets? Sorry, but the orignal prices @ Adobe, Bitstream etc. are just too dang expensive for the likes of me!