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Rade Milicevic's picture
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Joined: 18 May 2006 - 4:02am
Character problem
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I made a mistake of starting a project with an incomplete or corrupt typeface because I was sure I can fix it myself but it doesn't work..

Some characters like single quote, double quote etc. are not being displayed even though “they are there” – when I open the font data (windows ttf) in fontographer or font creator they are there where they're supposed to be but when I use the typeface in a program (anything from indesign to fireworks) it shows those rectangles reserved for missing characters.

Please help, I have no experience and therefore no clue what to look at. The typeface is this one: http://www.dafont.com/dev-gothic.font (I know, shouldn't have messed with free type but this one suited me better than any other and the project is zero profit).

Vincent Connare's picture
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Joined: 6 May 2005 - 4:33am
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the font only contains the neutral single quote and double quotes, but does not have the proper single and double quotation marks so your application is probably using 'smart quotes' and substituting the neutral quotes for proper quotes (which don't exist) or you are trying to use the characters x2018..x201D, but you only have the ascii quotes x0022 and x0027.

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Joined: 18 May 2006 - 4:02am
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I see..
but it is somehow impossible to use the neutral quotes in InDesign. Even if I copy them from the character map and paste in, InDesign switches to proper typographic quotations (which don't exist). It would be better to use the proper ones anyway even with a decorative typeface like this, so I'll try to build some. From which program is your screenshot, bu the way?

And thank you very much!

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> InDesign switches to proper typographic quotations

That won't happen if you deselect the option "Use Typographer's Quotes" in the Preferences.

That screenshot is from FontLab (on Windows).

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Joined: 28 Jul 2006 - 9:07am
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This is a late reply, but unfortunately it does replace the straight quotes when you paste from another application into Indesign even if "Use Typographer's Quotes" is deselected. This is a maddening bug when you have to use a typeface for Hebrew, Greek, or any other language where typographer's quote represents a completely different vowel or breathing.

If anyone has a solution I'd be glad to know what it is.