Wow. So much better.

HUGE improvement!

Although I'd have featured the fonts list more prominently - on the right instead of the left. On a small monitor they'd get lost.

Cool! Amazing what you can do when you free from the annoying hassles of publishing a printed magazine. ;-)

http://www.kottke.org/remainder/06/06/11175.html

-- omine.net

An improvement, but hardly a good job. Doesn't even fit in a 1024 * 768 resolution. 11 validation errors. No doctype. Big ? for me. Subnavigation is lost completely on Studio Projects on most monitors.

Oh well. I've never really been a big emigre fan so this really just adds to my perception of emigre as a place with half-functional products.

I liked the old site. I like how they were anti-trendy. This is slow too. Oh well. Now we have pictures. :^)

They are giving Van Dyke Park's Song Cycle some coverage in one of thier books. That should bring them some cosmic blessings.

Recently remastered and pressed by Sundazed—
http://www.sundazed.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&P...

Blah. The old one was much better.

—K

anyone have a screenshot of the old site? The new one is o.k. but has much to be desired. Actually I think the home page is just ugly.

whats your favorite emigre font? Mine is, err, maybe.. so hard to choose...Exocet! But that will probably change within the hour.

I did like how quick the old site was. The marvelous economy of means. The new site doesn't have the same thoughfulness in the Navigation/UI that the old one had. Oh well. The images are better.

The old site never appealed to me... always thought it poorly designed, disorganized, and not up to the standards of their print materials. I like the new site much better.

The thing I'm most concerned about are these really small vases. I guess they're good for really small flowers.

http://www.emigre.com/Ceramics.php?id=256

>anyone have a screenshot of the old site?

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.emigre.com/

Im not loving the current trend of big glammy picture links with no description of where its going. Spent half my time, playing hide and seek.

I have to admit that I loved the old site. Simple, smart, 'non trendy' and everyone knew its 'Emigre' when they saw it. :) ( I guess I will adapt to the new one like everyone else will, but its just not the same 'look and feel', and I somehow really, really liked that minimalistic 'text only' based approach. )

Dav

> whats your favorite emigre font?
'Los Feliz', by Christian Schwartz.

hide and seek is true about the new site. But the old one was awefull...Really. Thanks for the link sii,

I'll miss the old site.

The old site was just poor. The new site at least introduces hierarchy (yeah, that's a design concept.) It was trying to be undesigned, but it suffered badly from link overkill (compare to the "navigation" on the Oracle site: http://www.oracle.com/ .)

Yeah, this is an improvement.

As for the criticism about 1024 x 768. That may be the current web standard, but why limit it to a web standard when the audience (designers) very likely have much higher resolutions to work with.

Joe, as you create for the web and I don't, I do respect your opinion. But I was always able to find anything I needed from the "old" homepage. I realize it will take getting used to, and after that I won't notice a thing, but it seems to me they've taken a few steps backward.

The Oracle homepage hierarchy (I assume you are talking about the right hand bar) isn't that different from what Emigre had before.

(Don't shoot me, I'm just curious.)

Worst redesign was Graphis - their old site was just BEAUTIFUL and the new one is corporate/Swiss/boring! I wish I had a screen snap of their original site.

patty look at the link above that has working versions of their old site posted by sii!

Oracle is bad because they have too many links. But that is still better than Emigre and Emigre still has way more links. Whats with the brackets everywhere? Where is the visual heirchy, where is the grouping, where is the contrast, etc.

I meant the old Graphis site.

Oh. Joe wasn't saying that Oracle is good. He was saying that it is bad. Oops. :^> My bad.

I suppose I was used to the Emigre site. I'll admit to be able to read what I read most. :^>

The new site may have introduced hierachy by reducing the # of links but god save you if the this new site was an airport. You have to lean a whole new unorthodox UI structure! And the new UI is really deemphasized. The old site would 'get you to a plane on time' as it were.

That the old site was almost all UI was probably a flaw in the sense that it didn't keep you interested - not enough mystery/curiousity in the flat UI structure. That probably wasn't good for business.

Neither solution strikes me as very user centered. But then being 'easy' hasn't really been their 'gig' has it?

The new site IS nice!

Emigre fonts are so easy to fall in love for a weekend fling where you get their phone number but never call.

i thought the old site was dope.

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“Amazing what you can do when you free from the
annoying hassles of publishing a printed magazine.”

Ah, but the magazine will still exist in some format... number 70 is reportedly on the plate as a music delivery publication. I saw a peek of it when the new redesign first appeared, but the page is suspiciously absent now. You heard it hear first.

Grant, that's a great scoop! We'll wait and see.

"Im not loving the current trend of big glammy picture links with no description of where its going. Spent half my time, playing hide and seek."

Exactly my point. Besides the fact the site does not fit in my monitor (17" Apple Display), the old one, like it or not, was a pioneering masterpiece in terms of design and usability. I was a little tired by it, but I enjoyed it immensely, as it was launched shortly after Emigre released my own Ottomat.

I think they should have kept its efficiency, just with a new design.
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I quote like the site and think it's a vast improvement. I don't find it all that hard to navigate personally, my only complaint with it is I wish there was some text padding added in so it didn't go right to the edge of each div.

Well, at least it's better than their old site, I think. For Emigre, it feels very un-funky, almost too mainstream. What would've been cool was to have a site as flexible and lively as the magazine itself.

HD Schellnack

I figured out what is REALLY wrong with the site - no rollovers. With that long font list on the right, wouldn't it be nice if you could mouse over the font name and have the image display itself without having to click?

patty,

it does have that functionality. it just takes a few seconds for the image to appear. and i think a couple of them may be mixed up. what's your resolution? the rollover is below the blue rectangle with the links in the middle.

i like graphics and big images on a webite and, for a type foundry, big, proud displays of their typefaces is a good thing. having said that, anyone who does web design will cringe at the code and the lack of concern for usability and accessibility.

i still like they fonts though!