Envoy is less polished, retaining the irregularities common in pre-digital type, but the skeleton is nearly the same. So it's all about finish here. Which is better suited for your content?
Fairly close indeed. Thanks for that useful comparison, Stephen.
The content has to do with Classical (Roman) history, the early imperial period under Augustus. A fairly long tract of text. Mind you, this might be just the excuse I was looking for to buy MVB Verdigris. ;-)
I was going to mention Verdigris too! I censored myself because I thought it might be too wide for you. But it's lovely and I can certainly vouch for it, having used it many times. The others have the advantage of size-specific cuts, and Minion has many more extras, but if those aren't requirements, Verdigris would be my choice.
Palatine, I would have guessed you already bought Verdigris and used it extensively, after you so warmly recommended it two days ago (/node/21252). I've never used it myself, so let me know how it turned out for you!
I do own Verdigris. When I first recommended it warmly, I did not own it. But I compared its letterforms to other fonts designed for extensive text. Its versatility and aesthetic virtues were obvious. After having actually used it for two lengthy pieces of work, dealing mainly with Roman classical literature, my impressions of the font have been confirmed.
My attention was diverted by Envoy, however. I found its old-style characterestics rather charming, but the comparison to the overly-clean and consequently, insincere Minion, turned me away from it. So Verdigris came to mind, etc.
Héctor - I might blame Roland's ill-advised specimen for that, not the font itself. Don't know why he'd choose to letterspace and wordspace to justify the type in a specimen.
13 Jul 2006 — 5:44pm
I haven't seen it in use, but it is quite a deal: a legit family for $50.
13 Jul 2006 — 6:01pm
Haven't used it myself, but it seems Minion would be a better choice, unless you're looking for something less common and with an older finish.
13 Jul 2006 — 6:13pm
It's always refreshing to use something other than Minion. But how close is Envoy to Minion?
13 Jul 2006 — 7:04pm
How close? Fairly:
Envoy, Minion Caption
Envoy is less polished, retaining the irregularities common in pre-digital type, but the skeleton is nearly the same. So it's all about finish here. Which is better suited for your content?
13 Jul 2006 — 7:36pm
Fairly close indeed. Thanks for that useful comparison, Stephen.
The content has to do with Classical (Roman) history, the early imperial period under Augustus. A fairly long tract of text. Mind you, this might be just the excuse I was looking for to buy MVB Verdigris. ;-)
13 Jul 2006 — 7:46pm
I was going to mention Verdigris too! I censored myself because I thought it might be too wide for you. But it's lovely and I can certainly vouch for it, having used it many times. The others have the advantage of size-specific cuts, and Minion has many more extras, but if those aren't requirements, Verdigris would be my choice.
13 Jul 2006 — 8:08pm
Then it's settled ;)
14 Jul 2006 — 8:27am
The Italic is even closer to Minion's.
14 Jul 2006 — 8:35am
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14 Jul 2006 — 8:40am
If I remember correctly, the Roman of Verdigris was offered for a free trial a few months ago.
14 Jul 2006 — 9:11am
Yep. At FontShop. But one month only.
14 Jul 2006 — 10:34am
Palatine, I would have guessed you already bought Verdigris and used it extensively, after you so warmly recommended it two days ago (/node/21252). I've never used it myself, so let me know how it turned out for you!
15 Jul 2006 — 6:16pm
Typequake:
I do own Verdigris. When I first recommended it warmly, I did not own it. But I compared its letterforms to other fonts designed for extensive text. Its versatility and aesthetic virtues were obvious. After having actually used it for two lengthy pieces of work, dealing mainly with Roman classical literature, my impressions of the font have been confirmed.
My attention was diverted by Envoy, however. I found its old-style characterestics rather charming, but the comparison to the overly-clean and consequently, insincere Minion, turned me away from it. So Verdigris came to mind, etc.
17 Jul 2006 — 12:25pm
It's not very well spaced.
Héctor
17 Jul 2006 — 3:12pm
Héctor - I might blame Roland's ill-advised specimen for that, not the font itself. Don't know why he'd choose to letterspace and wordspace to justify the type in a specimen.
21 Jul 2006 — 1:31pm
You're right
Héctor