Top 3 must have books on typography_?

satya
11.Oct.2006 1.26pm
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Hello all,

The executive director of my college wants to gift me some books in the return of the graphics work i did for the Admissions session this year. He asked me what kind of books i would like to buy. obviously i will ask for the typography books and I can order any three books of my choice. ( No price restrictions )

Which are the three must have books for a typography student_?

Thnaks!

Satya_



paul d hunt
11.Oct.2006 1.30pm
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hmmmm.... no price restrictions? I’d go with Pages From Presses for sure! Okay, maybe it’s not so instructive, but a good starter (but maybe less exciting) is always the triumvirate.


satya
11.Oct.2006 1.38pm
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Price of Pages From Presses is $ 1,300.00 ...he he he


Nick Shinn
11.Oct.2006 2.50pm
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1. Paul Renner by Chris Burke — history
2. Style Guide by Robert Bringhurst — practice
3. The new FontBook — typeface reference


Chris Carlton-Bull
11.Oct.2006 2.55pm
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A very interesting book is Stop Stealing Sheep from Adobe


Nick Shinn
11.Oct.2006 3.04pm
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Stop Stealing Sheep from Adobe

Dang mutton rustlers.


dezcom
11.Oct.2006 3.14pm
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Type and Typography, Highlights from the Matrix; Batty

ChrisL


Eben Sorkin
11.Oct.2006 7.08pm
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What about Jan Middendorp’s ’Dutch Type’?


Linda Cunningham
11.Oct.2006 7.38pm
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And the newest Rockledge? I’ve got an old one (with the foreword by AF), but there should be a newer one....


DanGayle
11.Oct.2006 11.02pm
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Typically students, such as myself, are poor. But even I can afford Bringhurst, Spiekerman, etc. You need to think BIGGER! BADDER! ¡Muy, muy costoso!

You’ve got a sugar daddy, don’t let the opportunity pass!

How about Typographie, by Emil Ruder? I saw an English translation the other day at Wessel & Lieberman in Seattle that I coveted, but alas! I spent all my money on fonts instead :(


Kristian M
12.Oct.2006 2.02am
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A Tally of Types – Stanley Morison, An essey on typography – Eric Gill, The Stroke theory of writning – Gerrit Noordzij.

// ktkm


Kon
12.Oct.2006 4.44am
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Bringhurst - The Elements of Typographic Style.
Tschichold - The Form of the Book.
Zapf - Manuale Typographicum [Z-Presse, 1968]


dezcom
12.Oct.2006 4.49am
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“How about Typographie, by Emil Ruder?”

Dan, I have the first edition of Ruder’s book. It came out when I was a design student. I stil;l value it highly.

ChrisL


eliason
12.Oct.2006 5.51am
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If price is no concern, I would buy Morison’s two-volume Selected Essays before I bought his Tally of Types...

/but probably not if that counted as two...


paul d hunt
12.Oct.2006 7.18am
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okay, i fleshed out the wiki entry faq_books, so i don’t want to see any more book queries! kidding, kidding, kidding! >^P


Nick Shinn
12.Oct.2006 9.12am
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Another good history book is Texts on Type, by Heller & Meggs.
It comprises short articles by various luminaries, written throughout the 20th century, so it gets the reader close to original critical material, without having to do the research.
But it’s only a paperback, and you can probably get it for $5 on the Net — old books are so cheap now, the drag is paying for delivery, and waiting for it.


v-six
12.Oct.2006 11.25pm
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Kon, I second that. The Form of the Book is a great read.


Erik Fleischer
13.Oct.2006 8.10am
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Seeing as you’re from India, and heeding Dan’s sage bit of advice to think bigger and badder, I would suggest an expensive book that is not about typography but about scripts. I believe every typographer should be familiar with the evolution of various different scripts, and this book is invaluable, as well as costly:

The World’s Writing Systems, by Peter Daniels & William Bright
ISBN 0-19-507993-0


ben_archer
15.Oct.2006 3.28am
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There is a newer Rookledge, published by Laurence King in the UK, but mostly with the same content. Although the reference methodology is still great, it doesn’t necessarily help identify digital typefaces, or any font produced after about 1983.

I would recommend Baines and Haslam’s Type and Typography as a general primer.

Neil Macmillan’s An A-Z of Type Designers is also pretty interesting.

Then, of course, there is also The Logo Font and Lettering Bible by Leslie Carbarga which you should at least check out...


Solipsism
15.Oct.2006 2.39pm
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I’d say pick up Ezra Pound’s Cantos, James Joyce’s Finnegans Wake, and Georges Perec’s A Void.

:-)


dezcom
15.Oct.2006 6.01pm
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Don’t pick up Sandberg’s Lincoln though, it (they) weigh too much :-)

ChrisL


Erik Fleischer
16.Oct.2006 10.21am
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So much for helping Satya choose three books...


mlvr
16.Oct.2006 10.31am
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Manual Typographique

:-)

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MLVR


Linda Cunningham
16.Oct.2006 10.42am
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It’s not strictly typography, but it’s not cheap, so it probably qualifies in the “spend a lot of money” category.

“Universal Principles of Design: 100 ways to enhance usability, influence perception, increase appeal, make better design decisions, and teach through design” by William Lidwell, Kritina Holden and Jill Butler. ISBN 1-59253-007-9

Linda


satya
16.Oct.2006 11.21am
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Soooooooooo much too choose...and that’s the confusion:)
I’ve made a list of all the books recommonded here...and told my teacher to get them into my school’s library(the only way to get them all).
...
If am successfull getting them all in.....I’ll buy HarryPotter;)

>>btw, still thinking for myself.


raph
16.Oct.2006 2.40pm
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I second Daniels & Bright. I also recommend “The Typographic Book” by Morison and Day, about $100 in a decent used edition. And, to round out the “bigger and badder” theme, I’d go with the 1912 or 1923 ATF specimen book, about $250 but sometimes you can get lucky.


Christopher Dean
23.Oct.2006 12.33pm
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I’d recomend The complete manual of typography. Also an Adobe book, so be aware that there is a definite bias, as is with Stop stealing sheep.

The Mac is not a typewriter is a classic. Simple, and great for the layperson.

A great specimine book is American metal typefaces of the 20th century.

Fontshop makes nice catalogues, and aparently LinoType has one coming out, for something liks $20usd, but from what I know it does not show complete character sets. That makes it more of an ad than a resource.

If you don’t have it, definately get the Bringhurst book, but be sure to get the hard cover. The 2nd edition in perfect bound is a little too thick, though last time I checked only the 1st edition was available in hardcover. It has a nice red ribon for marking your page though. The major difference between 1st and 2nd ed is that in 2nd theres a larger glosary, more specimines, and mebe a small section on something digital. I have 1st in hard, have seen the 2nd, and feel no need to buy it again.

Better still, I get to go hear Bringhurst speak tonight (at NSCAD University) and if its appropiate, I might be able to get him to sign it for me.


Solipsism
23.Oct.2006 2.09pm
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My copy’s a Bringhurst 3.1, softcover. I also have his 1st and 2nd edition softcovers from when I was a student... aside from adding a chapter or two, he does expand on some of his previous explanations...

Has anyone noticed Bringhurst adopts Wittgenstein’s decimal system for his chapters?


hlvtca
2.Nov.2006 7.15pm
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here are a few more for you to chew on...

1. Designing Type - Karen Cheng
2. The Elements of Typographic Style - Bringhurst
3. My Way to Typography - Wolfgang Weingart

enjoy!


jackson
2.Nov.2006 7.51pm
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How come no one ever mentions Doyald Young?
I think logotypes and letterforms is a really good book.


cooper design
2.Nov.2006 10.04pm
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Layout in Advertising by W. A. Dwiggins.
In many ways an entirely archaic and impractical text, but a wonderful reminder that the well made thing only results from involved, hands-on artistry. I still find the book’s expressions of quality to be a great source of inspiration.