Indesign: Can you integrate the x-height in the ‘show baseline grid‘-option?

–RTFRT–
23.Oct.2006 6.16am
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Dear all,

We all know that it is nice to have pictures aligned with the x-height of text in stead of the baseline, I am sure that we all do it intuitively, but does Indesign CS2 support this in the ‘Grid‘-options? Or are there plug-ins available?

Cheers, –RTFRT–



justin_kay
23.Oct.2006 11.05am
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i would love to know this as well. thus far the only option i know is optical alignment which is annoying...


Miss Tiffany
23.Oct.2006 11.34am
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If I follow you:

You could always set up your stylesheet for the text to be set below the baseline.


Ralf Herrmann
23.Oct.2006 11.55am
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It’s not much work to set this up manually. On the master page I put guidelines on every baseline, make a copy and shift them to the x-height. I put this on a separate layer so I can turn it on and off whenever I want. Takes less than a minute.

Ralf


John Nolan
23.Oct.2006 12.00pm
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If you set your text frame options to have the first baseline aligned by x-height, and snap text frames to the document grid, it’s simply a matter of matching the increments of the document grid to your leading.


–RTFRT–
23.Oct.2006 3.00pm
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Cheers Ralph. I forgot there were layers in Indesign. =)
indeed a very handy solution when there is no software answer.
thank you.

–RTFRT–

(thanks for all the posts)


Ludwig M. Solzen
29.Oct.2006 3.59am
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This could be easily build in. The value for the x-height is in the font data, along with the values for the caps height, ascender height and descender length.

table OS/2 {
TypoAscender xxx;
TypoDescender -xxx;
Panose x x x x x x x x x x;
XHeight xxx;
CapHeight xxx;
FSType x;
} OS/2;

I see lots of other interesting possibilities. When paring or comparing different fonts, one could have their x-heights aligned, i.e. scale them so that their respective x-heights fit a given absolute value, e.g. 10 pts. One would also have the option to do the same for the caps heights, descenders/ascenders.

This feature would allow for at least a better standard for font sizes. As we know, the point size (corps) tells nothing about the perceived optical size of a font. Design briefings that state a required point size, but allow to choose a typeface at wish, are inadequate. A prerequired absolute x-height value would be better instead.

I suggest to at least implement a x-height box into the type panel, next to the size box: if one changes either of the values, the other is recalculated, so that one could see immediately what absolute size equals the x-height of a certain value. If caps, ascender/descender height could be implemented this would be nice too.