What are the most popular fonts in your country?

alexfjelldal
4.Dec.2006 12.07am
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or city or state or street or region?

green_child
4.Dec.2006 2.00am
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And what would you say is the most popular font in Norway at the moment?


lettertiep
4.Dec.2006 2.07am
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in belgium: DIN & Rotis :-)


poms
4.Dec.2006 2.45am
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south-west germany

Helvetica Neue, Meta, Frutiger, Rotis (hehe, the local traffic uses it in my city), FF Din (and Din 1451 "unsere Autobahnschrift"), i forgot TheSans


alexfjelldal
4.Dec.2006 2.51am
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In Norway, theres a surge of Klavika at the moment. I must admit having jumped the bandwagon.

couple of years ago, Foundry Monoline was quite popular.

I think we managed to get rid of the rotis plague by now.


lettertiep
4.Dec.2006 3.12am
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"the rotis plague"

:-)


dezcom
4.Dec.2006 5.49am
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I fear it is still Times New Roman.

ChrisL


alexfjelldal
4.Dec.2006 6.31am
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ok, i'll refine my question: What are the most popular fonts in your country, apart from windows system fonts?


Solipsism
4.Dec.2006 8.24am
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Amongst designers in NYC (and presumably America), it seems to be Gotham. A lovely typeface to be sure, but fast becoming over prescribed for every design task.

Otherwise, the mainstays are Helvetica, Adobe Garamond, and Times New Roman. The US government's official typographic standard requires that all official documents be in Times New Roman at 14 points. This was changed over from 12pt Courier New. No word on how this should all be line spaced.

I personally use a lot of Adobe Garamond, Din, FF Bau, Today Sans, Thesis, and Scala.


bert_vanderveen
4.Dec.2006 8.48am
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Apart from the usual suspects (Meta, Thesis, Interstate) Scala Sans is all over the place in The Netherlands…

And lately Gerard Unger has been gaining ground; one of our main papers (‘de Volkskrant’)started using Capitolium News last saturday, as part of a major overhaul (no images online, sorry).

http://www.gerardunger.com/allmytypedesigns/allmytypedesigns22.html


Jacob
4.Dec.2006 9.19am
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Norway:

Apex Sans/New
Neo Sans
FF DIN

are our top three sellers at the moment... (in addition to Frutiger & Helvetica ;-)
For the full picture:
http://www.bildesalg.no/fontdatabase/fontprisliste-topp20.htm

Jacob


hrant
4.Dec.2006 10.38am
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Comic Sans without a doubt. And worldwide too.

hhp


Solipsism
4.Dec.2006 10.54am
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I've talked on and off through the years with a guy that publishes a monthly email newsletter gathering the arts and cultural happenings in the neighborhood, rubbing shoulders and elbows at various cocktail functions, and every time he's expresed interest in my evaluation of his documents. And everytime I tell him, Not until you stop using Comic Sans will I begin a serious dialogue with you. I guess I should also talk to him about color. Grape colored Comic Sans to announce that Phillip Glass will be in town. Fun.


v-six
4.Dec.2006 11.09am
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Dezcom, do you think Times is in such an overabundance because of the sad state of the aesthetic of half of the country, or because there's a lack of proper education? It's a sad thing, I preflighted a Prentic Hall book on desktop publishing a few weeks ago, and it recommended Times as a book font!

In my opinion, the most popular font is dependant of the medium. The TV/Movie industry doesn't make use of Times as much, but boy they love their Trajan. Drop by any movie rental place, and you could create a large section of the place with DVDs with some deviation of Trajan used for the titling font. My girlfriend is even sick of it, and she has no design/typography background whatsoever.


Solipsism
4.Dec.2006 11.44am
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Yes, Trajan is quite prevalent in movie poster design. I am also tired, tired to death actually, of seeing those designers f*ck around with a capital R, namely by extending the leg.


mwebert
4.Dec.2006 11.56am
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In the U.S. lately, I'm seeing lots of Helvetica Neue, Meta, Frutiger, and Avenir.

--Michael.

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dezcom
4.Dec.2006 11.57am
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Casey,
I think Times is so popular because it has been bundled with every Mac and Windows machine since the 80s and is the default face for MS Word (and numerous other non-decision reasons). Most people don't pay much attention to typefaces. They just go with the default.
Trajan might have started out as a correct choice for some Roman era spectacular film which ended up with big box office. Later, producers trying to promote their film as having "Big Boxoffice" wanted to use Trajan to give it that look of success. Even if the film had nothing to do with Ancient Rome and made no sense, it was a "me too" kinda thing. I can see "The Robe", Spartacus", and the like, using Trajan but now it is down right silly to see it on anything and everything coming out of Hollywood. Times and Trajan are good typefaces but just because you own a nice tuxedo doesn't mean you wear it to wash your car. :-)

ChrisL


Solipsism
4.Dec.2006 12.09pm
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I'd wear a tuxedo and instruct someone else to wash my car.

I think I may have commented earlier in another post somewhere else here, but I've worked at a studio that exclusively did movie posters and advertisement for the entertainment industry. Trajan comes out whenever they want a Oscar/Acaemy Award feel. In fact that is exactly what they tell the movie execs.


dezcom
4.Dec.2006 12.31pm
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"Trajan comes out whenever they want a Oscar/Acaemy Award feel."

After a million uses, it doesn't work any more. Maybe the movie moguls still see "Oscar" but most people see nothing anymore. They may even see "same old phoney crap". I guess today's Hollywood producers are consistant at least, instead of coming up with new movies, they just go back and remake old successful ones. That may be why the independent films are so much better that the old studios, they actually try to make new films instead of resurecting old ones (and they are not run by committees of micromanagers). They are the same with type--just go back and use what succeeded 30 years ago.
ChrisL


hrant
4.Dec.2006 12.37pm
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Why make anything good when the bad stuff sells better?
Don't just blame Hollywood - look deeper.

hhp


Solipsism
4.Dec.2006 12.46pm
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A very Learning From Las Vegas comment, to be sure.


Action Hank
4.Dec.2006 1.57pm
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It turned out great, didn't it?

I'd add normal Scala to that list, and I've seen a lot of Janson in books lately.


James Puckett
4.Dec.2006 3.30pm
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Papyrus is still too popular here in the USA. Zapfino seems to be enjoying a resurgence, mostly on rap and R&B album covers, as well as in a lot of low-end advertising, I think a lot of people are enjoying playing with OT Zapfino Extra. Helvetica is still popular, but oddly, I see Arial being used in a lot of places where I would expect to see Helvetica lately, perhaps it's just not taboo anymore. Fette Fraktur is everywhere. AG Rounded, VAG rounded, and Helvetica rounded are making slow, steady gains in popularity.


v-six
4.Dec.2006 3.33pm
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Chris, I have to agree with you on that. I wonder how many desktop users really have a preference of what typeface they're using anyway. Hopefully Vista will have an influence on the amount of exposure for Times. I have to admit, when I started out in computer engineering I can't say I was going out of my way to choose a typeface in MS Word. If I had stayed that course, I don't suppose things would have changed. Maybe the typical high school spec sheet (12 pt. Times New Roman or points deducted) had some influence on that..


terminaldesign
4.Dec.2006 7.16pm
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"And there's hamburger all over the highway in Mystic Connecticut."


nicholasgross
4.Dec.2006 7.27pm
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Australia? Seems to be Helvetica neue, meta and over the last two or so years the geometric DIN-like fonts, for a while you saw a bit of clarendon or similar (take our Government's new work 'choices' legislation for eg) and also lately I've noticed a lot of slabby serifed fonts used in magazine layout. Any Aussies, correct me if I'm wrong

--N


Linda Cunningham
4.Dec.2006 8.12pm
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Our local government (Calgary, AB Canada) uses Optima in the logo and many other places -- almost, unfortunately, to the point of oversaturation (personally I love Optima, but I'm starting to use it less and less because of this). The University of Calgary does as well....

Lately, I've been seeing a fair bit of Eras (another of my faves) in different places as well, and Futura (because it is one of the house fonts at the client I'm currently doing an in-house job for, but in other applications as well).

I recently redesigned my business cards and cranked out a new logo -- the old one was in Papyrus (yes, I know), but the new one uses American Uncial in the logo and Albertus as the text font. Seems to be different enough to garner positive attention but not strange enough to weird folks out.


hrant
4.Dec.2006 8.47pm
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Linda, it sounds like your local government is actually
doing something for you... nurturing an aversion to Optima!

hhp


ben_archer
5.Dec.2006 12.35am
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Hi Alex

Most popular with these thrifty people would be any of the fonts that come free with the computer...

A colleague recently noted that they'd seen a lot of Gill Sans here in New Zealand; I replied that it now is in the 'bundled' category above, but the local University uses it (paired with Bodoni).

Thomas said Rotis (hehe, the local traffic uses it in my city) – this is also true of Auckland City Council, who use it for a lot of municipal signage. NZ Telecom adopted Bliss a couple of years ago, and maybe set a small trend for it. Although one of the local freight companies uses Comic Sans on all of their big trucks, I don't see it so much anymore. The place where I work has just given up a 15-year relationship with Optima. Historically I always thought that both Australia and New Zealand favoured Goudy as a general-purpose jobbing face.


dezcom
5.Dec.2006 8.45am
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Latest movie sequel:


Linda Cunningham
5.Dec.2006 9.41am
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ROFL, Chris. Lemme guess: the theme music sounds a lot like "Jaws".... ;-)


biddy
5.Dec.2006 11.01am
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I'm surprised to hear Rotis is used on signage. While I think its a nice typeface, I think it is a terrible typeface to use for signage. Its too high-contrast has too many features, and is so delicate (at least to me) in structure that I think it should only be used at smaller point sizes.


dezcom
5.Dec.2006 11.05am
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They can't mean street signs, I think they must mean something not in the way-finding category Terry--at least I hope so.

ChrisL


biddy
5.Dec.2006 11.07am
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Check out Hrant's link, Chris.


dezcom
5.Dec.2006 11.11am
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Yikes, I stand corrected. Looks like they were shagging sheep there too;-)

ChrisL


hrant
5.Dec.2006 11.11am
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> Its too high-contrast

Well the "Sans" set has no (or very low) contrast.

But yeah, I wouldn't use Rotis for street signs myself. Then again
I wouldn't use pretty much any of the other stuff people use either.

hhp


Linda Cunningham
5.Dec.2006 12.23pm
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re: Rotis signs

Eeeew! People were actually paid for this? Real money? Damn, I'm in the wrong business....


Solipsism
5.Dec.2006 12.35pm
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Those signs are pretty damn ugly.

I have yet to find a project for Rotis. I've proposed it a couple times, and I actually want to use it in something. Almost like my quest to use a Didot...


dezcom
5.Dec.2006 12.41pm
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Give Vogue a call James :-)

ChrisL


Solipsism
5.Dec.2006 12.48pm
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Chris, I am doneth with strutting my stuff with fashion advertising for the most part, and I don't think I would like an editorial project anytime soon. But thank you for the suggestion. :-)


karenhuang
5.Dec.2006 10.58pm
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Haha! I had no idea about this thread. You guys should really visit! There's nothing like living and breathing these live-sized signs, getting lost, getting into accidents, and getting divorced* because of them.

* Assuming the conventional arrangement of one spouse driving and the other navigating.


alexfjelldal
5.Dec.2006 11.59pm
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oh, and Neutra(face) is all over the place. The charm of the lowered middle stroke of 'E' is sloooowly wearing off.


filip blazek
6.Dec.2006 2.47am
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Czech Republic: Arial & Times New Roman. Everywhere. Time tables, road signs, logotypes, billboards, business cards, subway signs, books... And, of course, Comic Sans is as well very popular. The typographic environment in the Czech Republic is extremely poor. Czechs don't have sense for type:

But if you look at stuff designed by professionals, Storm's and Brousil's typefaces are to be seen everywhere in Prague - from posters to books. This support of local type designers among Czech graphic design industry is an interesting phenomenon. There are obvious roots in the last years: Brousil and Storm both offers relatively cheap font packages and all of their typefaces support Central European languages. I used Brousil's Atrament to design this Juggling poster:


alexfjelldal
6.Dec.2006 3.50am
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I was in krakow, poland, this summer, and i noticed that they have a quite different taste for "stock" typography than us in norway. A lot of the cheap, "non-professional" signs and posters were made with jugend-style typefaces instead of bauhaus, arial etc.


dezcom
6.Dec.2006 5.18am
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Arial & Times? Say it isn't so Filip! I always had visions of beautiful typography all over the Czech Republic with its great history.
I am glad that at least the professional designers there are holding up their end of quality work.

ChrisL


Nick Cooke
6.Dec.2006 7.31am
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Chris, take a look at this little beauty from Prague; I think it's trying to be University Roman, but can't be sure.

This is better, though not exactly current.

Nick Cooke


spirelli
7.Dec.2006 6.14am
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Here it's Times New Roman and Arial.


dezcom
7.Dec.2006 6.34am
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Thanks Nick! I like the stained glass with the rest of the building.

ChrisL


Linda Cunningham
7.Dec.2006 12.12pm
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I was heading over to a meeting this morning and at one intersection, three of the four corners had signs in Benguiat. Talk about over-saturation!


Dan Weaver
7.Dec.2006 2.36pm
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Because of web pages the verdon arial helvetica or georgia etc. I suspect these are the newest offenders


dezcom
7.Dec.2006 3.59pm
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Hi Dan!

ChrisL


vinceconnare
8.Dec.2006 5.41am
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