What Tiff means is that this kind of lettering is output device-specific: it is a set of characters that is produced specifically for a certain type of stamping machine. This means it originally had no equivalent in what we know as "type". These alphabets only existed for stamping machines to make these train station signs. Some of them were digitised afterwards, like Tobias Frere-Jones did with the American Highway type and Rian Hughes with the British Ministry of Transport face. But they made a selection of character shapes and changed them where they deemed it necessary, so you won't find an exacty match to your examples.
Other examples are alphabets available for the stamping machines that produce automobile license plates, for sowing and embroidery machines, for stone engraving et al. It just is a different world. In some rare cases you’ll find alphabets that have digital font counterparts, but more often than not they will be unique to that reproduction system.
19 Mar 2007 — 4:25pm
Done by machine. I do believe.
19 Mar 2007 — 4:53pm
Whats that mean?
Any digital equivalents?
19 Mar 2007 — 6:25pm
You can try Highway Gothic or Interstate Condensed for a close alternative.
- Lex
20 Mar 2007 — 12:53am
Or Rian Hughes' new Ministry, the British Ministry of Transport typeface.
20 Mar 2007 — 1:07am
> Done by machine. I do believe.
> What's that mean?
What Tiff means is that this kind of lettering is output device-specific: it is a set of characters that is produced specifically for a certain type of stamping machine. This means it originally had no equivalent in what we know as "type". These alphabets only existed for stamping machines to make these train station signs. Some of them were digitised afterwards, like Tobias Frere-Jones did with the American Highway type and Rian Hughes with the British Ministry of Transport face. But they made a selection of character shapes and changed them where they deemed it necessary, so you won't find an exacty match to your examples.
Other examples are alphabets available for the stamping machines that produce automobile license plates, for sowing and embroidery machines, for stone engraving et al. It just is a different world. In some rare cases you’ll find alphabets that have digital font counterparts, but more often than not they will be unique to that reproduction system.
20 Mar 2007 — 1:20am
>British Ministry of Transport
Sorry Yves, there’s no such thing any more, the Department for Transport uses Bliss and Helvetica.
Tim
EDIT: that explanation clears it up
20 Mar 2007 — 10:53am
thanks! this is good to know.
20 Mar 2007 — 12:10pm
but more often than not they will be unique to that reproduction system
Nicely put.