(x) Gator square sans caps - Eurostile Ext (Microgramma) {Michael Albright}

jasonf
31.Jul.2007 5.53pm
jasonf's picture


malbright
31.Jul.2007 6.01pm
malbright's picture

Looks like Eurostile Bold Extended #2, gussied up of course.


jasonf
31.Jul.2007 6.04pm
jasonf's picture

Money. Thanks.


Michel Boyer
31.Jul.2007 6.32pm
Michel Boyer's picture

I’d say Microgramma Bold. [edit] and extended, of course.


fontplayer
31.Jul.2007 9.59pm
fontplayer's picture

I am still trying to get a feel for kerning, so I am wondering...do the experienced eyes think the AT could use some adjustment?


malbright
31.Jul.2007 11.49pm
malbright's picture

Definitely!

PS: I believe Eurostile, which originated in the early 1960s, is a more comprehensive version of Microgramma, which was an all caps font dating back to the early 1950s. As I recall, the same Swiss designers worked on both.


Renko
1.Aug.2007 12.27am
Renko's picture

malbright wrote: As I recall, the same Swiss designers worked on both..

The design came from Aldo Novarese, an Italian type designer. More information at the wikipedia link …


Bald Condensed
1.Aug.2007 12.32am
Bald Condensed's picture

Apart from that, Michael has it right. Eurostile is Microgramma with lowercase and extra weights.


malbright
1.Aug.2007 2.56am
malbright's picture

Oops. Did I saw Swiss? I meant Italian. ;-0


Michel Boyer
1.Aug.2007 7.51am
Michel Boyer's picture

Why changing the name of a font when lowercase characters are added? Do font names change when cyrillic characters are added?


Bald Condensed
1.Aug.2007 4.26pm
Bald Condensed's picture

Beats me. Ask Aldo. :^/


dan_reynolds
1.Aug.2007 11.29pm
dan_reynolds's picture

>Why changing the name of a font when lowercase characters are added?

Marketing! When Eurostile was brought out, it was a new type family. They still kept selling Microgramma, as far as I know. More type families in the catalog can often lead to more sales.

>Do font names change when cyrillic characters are added?

No. Sometimes, the name might be appended with a “Pro” or “Plus” or “Super” or “Awesome” or “Whatever” though.


Bald Condensed
2.Aug.2007 4.32am
Bald Condensed's picture

Don’t forget “Next”. ;^)


Michel Boyer
2.Aug.2007 4.38am
Michel Boyer's picture

Here is what I gathered from the Eurostile and Microgramma fonts on FontShop:

  • Both have lowercase characters
  • Elsner+Flake sells Microgramma in 2 styles: extended medium and extended bold
  • URW sells Microgramma in 3 styles: extended medium, extended bold and extended bold shadow
  • Linotype Library sells Eurostile in 10 styles (with condensed and normal, an additional demi weight, and italics)

and I have the feeling I am still missing part of the story.


Michel Boyer
2.Aug.2007 1.47pm
Michel Boyer's picture

And looking for Microgramma here (paratype.com), I found “Magistral” and “Micra” with cyrillic characters and saw Square 721 in the list...

[edit] Moreover, looking for Eurostile on the same site, I found Europe with plenty of styles, and cyrillic characters. It is said: The typeface was designed at TypeMarket in 1992-1993 by Alexey Kustov. Similar to Eurostile by Aldo Novarese, 1962, Nebiolo. [note: The character set is just cyrillic standard].


Bald Condensed
3.Aug.2007 1.18pm
Bald Condensed's picture

Ahhh, the wonders of clones, competing type foundries and the confusion they create. ;^)