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Jess Latham's picture
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Here's some samples of a new pointed brush font I've been working on. It's being drawn on the wrong side of Epson photo paper with a Japanese Pentel brush pen and of course redrawn (I do ok with a brush but I'm not that good yet) and edited in Illustrator to create the connections. I've redrawn the upper and lowercase about 5 times now to get to where I'm at. I'm unsure about the L, k, s and z and I'd like some opinions on what everyone thinks about the direction it's going.

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i think it's quite nice! the lowercase seems a bit too tight in places, esp the right side of the o, but in many other places as well. i think the lettershaps you're questioning are just fine, but i found the u a bit ambiguous i stopped reading when i came to it because i couldn't decide if it was a u or an en. The S seems wonky, something just not quite right about it. overall it feels very nice though, keep up the good work!

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I like it... a very nice flow to the lettering... would be nice to have some alternates for when there are double letters, to make it look less 'digital'... however, if i could write like that, i'd probably not bother with digital :-)

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Not bad, Jess! Paul is right about spacing. The 's' is just fine, just needs more room. Especially apparent in the 'ss' pair.

paul d hunt's picture
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unfortunately respacing a connecting script usually means redrawing the characters :(

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But the 's' doesn't connect on the right side, and doesn't need to. "Jackson" looks fine, for instance, and will still with a little more space after the 's'.

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> The S seems wonky, something just not quite right about it.

Could that be because of the very thin spine?

I understand that the tool dictates the shapes in this case, but maybe if the weight would be on the spine a bit more, it might look better.
I think most writing tools put the weight on the 'ears' of the S (because of the angle), so to speak, and that historically speaking, the weight was shifted to the spine, to balance the shape. Or am I mistaken?

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Thanks everyone for the advice and compliments! Here's a new sample with loosened up spacing and also the reworked S and u. I also reshaped the s and made a few other minor changes.

Jess Latham
www.bvfonts.com

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Joined: 15 Sep 2005 - 2:36pm
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this is really terrific. i especially enjoy the "y" and "g," and i'm usually a bit uneasy with the "x" in connecting scripts, but yours works well. i know you'll continue to noodle with it for a bit yet, but great job so far.

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much better already! the dl combo seems a bit tight still, it could actually be the left side of the l that's doing it. also the right side of the s seems a bit tight still.

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Joined: 25 May 2004 - 2:29am
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I like this very much. It has a nice loose flow, but still looks a bit tight - you could easily make the lead-outs a bit longer to get more inter-character space. For a more authentic handwritten look you could also introduce many two or three character ligatures in OpenType, (especially duplicate characters together), and also have some replacement end characters without the long lead-out stroke.

Nick Cooke

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Joined: 23 Jan 2004 - 6:11pm
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Thanks Chuck, Paul and Nick! : )

I'm having a spacing dilemma. Everything looks ok to me except the double s combination. Would it be a bad idea to use kerning to move them away from each other instead of how a kern normally works? Here's an example of how that looks with the double s kern:

Jess Latham
www.bvfonts.com

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jess, the ss looks better to me, but even the sh looks tight to me. the s could probably use a bit more air to the right. (or it could be the h that's problem, but i'm guessing the s)

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Joined: 13 Jul 2001 - 11:00am
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This is a lot of fun.

At small sizes the exit stroke on the s (the little half loop) is a little flat. Or maybe I should say it is sharp. And the terminus on the e seems flat, perhaps the t as well. I assume you're working on alternates?

This is fun. (I know I said that already but I couldn't help writing it again.)

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Joined: 13 Jul 2001 - 11:00am
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I'm not sure I'd add more space to the right of the s unless you are just talking about the pair.

Jess Latham's picture
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Joined: 23 Jan 2004 - 6:11pm
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Thanks Tiffany! Yes, I will have alternates. Here's an example of an alternate G and endings.

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Joined: 4 Jan 2009 - 12:27am
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This is a really nice type. Is this typeface completed? and if so, is it available for purchase?

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Joined: 3 Jul 2007 - 9:17pm
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I agree..very nice indeed. Very relaxed look..can even imagine it selling Green tea already:P

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Joined: 20 Jul 2007 - 10:00am
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I'm new to this thread but the face is beautiful and your work on the kern pairs really perfected it. This is a look that's needed right now. It's a med-heavy script but smooth and easy on the eyes. And it's always fun to find alternates in a typeface, shows craftmanship. Very nice work.