Math signs?!

strass
28.Aug.2007 8.56am
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Hello

Im doing a roman - wedge serif called “Quadratta Serif” for text, not for screen.

http://typophile.com/node/35021

and Im having problems with the maths signs, so
i have a cupple of questions:

- Wich is the best way to test math signs (and numbers), and to know if they work or not?

- If im doing a text type, should i use low case numbers?

- Can math signs be innovative? or at least not boring? I am experimentig this, but i dont want to compromise legibility. I see this signs in romans and they are sans-serif’s like.

Thanxs a lot,
and hope this will help some other people...

Ferch



dsgoen
28.Aug.2007 10.12am
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I’ve grown quite fond of your work on this typeface. My only complaint is that I’m missing too much interesting conversation since I can only read English! Well, I guess that’s my fault...

If you haven’t already done so, you may wish to look at http://cg.scs.carleton.ca/~luc/math.html for some links and advice on math typography. Knuth, in particular, is interesting.

Personal opinion: Yes, math signs can be innovative and not boring. They just need to be clear in their intent. I personally find many of the older math fonts to be distracting when they don’t have any resemblance to the text typeface. I felt this way before I studied any typography, so I don’t think it’s just because I’m tuned in on typographic specifics now. The Greek letters are a different matter, as I’m not attuned to the needs of the Greek language (once again, my failure to learn other languages).

In my defense, I live in the middle of a continent where most people speak English, so one major problem has been “which language should I learn?”.

I look forward to watching your work progress.


strass
28.Aug.2007 11.12am
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Thanks a lot!

promiss i’ll start writing in english and spanish!
better for me, so i can practice :)

greetings

Ferch


Steve Tiano
28.Aug.2007 4.47pm
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This is an interesting issue to me, as I cut my teeth as a proofreader of math and, in fact—as a typesetter—have made math and equations my specialty. So, do you build a math space around the letterform of a math symbol? Or do you leave that to the math software?

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m thinking that you’d build the space into the letterform, as there wil be times when the math sign is simply a part of text, rather than in an equation (the latter typeset more easily from within special math/equation software). Yes?

Thank you.


dsgoen
29.Aug.2007 5.56am
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I completely agree with you; build the space into the letterform. The issue of math being part of the text is precisely what I meant about being annoyed when the math typeface is completely different from the text. I should have articulated that.

Half the time the baselines are different between the text and the math, which really bugs me as the math collides into the text. Outside of the text an equation is treated more as an illustration, and the differences between text and symbols becomes much less of an issue for me.