making inch marks

Stonetramp's picture

This should be SO easy, and maybe it is, but I can't find ANY information in my ID manuals or ID Help on how to make inch marks. In Quark you just use the control key, so I am sure there must be a simple way to do this without turning off curly quotes in Preferences every time an inch mark is needed.

So can someone enlighten me?

Much thanks!

will powers's picture

Use true primes or double primes for foot and inch marks. Not quotation marks. Not the up-and-down primes you get with the control key. I use the Universal News + Commercial Pi font.

Hit 8 for single prime. Hit 9 for double.

They look so much better than the others. I'm sure other typographers have other ways to do this.

good luck.

powers

Stonetramp's picture

There's got to be a way to do this without having a special font. Anyone else?

Nick Shinn's picture

They are in the basic Symbol font which comes with the OS.

Nowadays, some foundries are putting these characters in their OpenType fonts.
I am, but haven't released any yet.

So you would use the glyph palette to set them.

You could cheat by using the "hungarian umlaut" -- a double-acute accent, which might do the job depending on the font, and which is easily accessible with option-shift-g.

gargoyle's picture

In ID3 just hold down Alt instead of Ctrl. But as others have pointed out, that doesn't produce true inch marks, it's just a convenient way to get non-curly quotes.

True primes can be found at Unicode U+2032 and U+2033. They're under the Punctuation category in ID's glyph palette.

Stonetramp's picture

Ah! Thanks Nick, that's what I needed!

charles_e's picture

As has been mentioned, most fonts don't come with U+2032 and U+2033.

But . . .

When making these up for a font that lacks them, skewing a "quotesingle" works about as well as rotating it -- better in some ways, worse in others. I tend to use a little of both. So, in InDesign, you could set the quotesingle & then just slant it about 15 degrees for a reasonable prime/minute/foot. And of course, the quotedbl for minute/inch.

FWIW

Nick Shinn's picture

Charles, let's hope Thomas, John or Adam don't see this thread, or we could be in big trouble...

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