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emilie
30.Mar.2004 8.03pm
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Would anyone know if the ligature "

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kakaze
30.Mar.2004 9.13pm
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I thought "Et cetera" was linguistically correct, sans


emilie
30.Mar.2004 9.25pm
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Hmm well I wouldn't be surprised to word being mistreated every now and then. That's the way it's written in a text by George Pennec so I would guess it's correct... Maybe there are other translations.

Opinions anyone? =)


anonymous
31.Mar.2004 9.49am
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Using the ae ligature is considered somewhat archaic in U.S. English -- in fact, American usage has dropped the leading a in most instances. (For example: encyclopaedia vs. encyclopedia.)

Although British style retains both letters in most instances, I do not know whether they commonly use the ligature or not. I suspect it is not necessarily improper to use it, but it may look quaint/mannered/overly formal.


anonymous
31.Mar.2004 10.00am
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Moreover, I believe the æ ligature is only properly used in English for words derived from Latin that contain the specific ae dipthong in question, not any random occurrence of the a-e letter sequence.


emilie
31.Mar.2004 10.47am
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Actually, my main text is in french but I think Et c


John Hudson
31.Mar.2004 12.07pm
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emilie
31.Mar.2004 1.23pm
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That's more than I could have asked for, thanks!

Em


anonymous
19.Apr.2004 6.41pm
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In Norwegian and Danish, “æ” is not a ligature of “a” and “e”, but an independent letter, representing the vowel sound in English “hat”. Using “ae” as a substitute for “aelig;” in Norwegian and Danish would be akin to using “vv” as a substitute for “w” in English—comprehensible, but jarring.

Regarding “et cetera” vs “et caetera”: either is acceptable, but the former is found more frequently than the latter, at least in English language contexts.

I believe that “æ” and “œ” usage in (post-Anglo-Saxon) English had been preferred for words ultimately of Greek origin that were spelled with alpha-iota and omicron-iota respectively. As the Latin word “c(a)eterus” [for which “c(a)etera” is likely the feminine ablative] is not of Greek origin, it probably shouldn‘t be spelled with æ.


anonymous
19.Apr.2004 6.46pm
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Oops. It looks like the "Enable HTML code in message" option excludes character entities...


cjg
22.Apr.2004 10.16pm
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So is it linguistically correct to toss in


John Hudson
22.Apr.2004 10.37pm
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It isn't linguistically incorrect but most people would think it a strange affectation.


dan_reynolds
23.Apr.2004 5.43am
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Since, in german,


anonymous
6.May.2004 6.14pm
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In Old (and Middle) English, the character




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