Reasons to use Flickr ?

russellm
18.Jan.2008 2.12pm
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I use Picasa to host images.

All the cool kids and designers seem to use Flickr. Is there any particular advantage I’m missing? Any compelling reason I should use Flickr instead of Picasa?

.... Aside from being cool, I mean.



Stephen Coles
18.Jan.2008 2.36pm
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It works better.


russellm
18.Jan.2008 3.11pm
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How so?

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Miss Tiffany
18.Jan.2008 3.13pm
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The interface, for one, is much more organized and straight-forward.


smongey
18.Jan.2008 5.23pm
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It’s also an incredible pain having to sign up for a yahoo email account just because you want a flickr account. I can honestly say that my yahoo email account will never see the light of day!


HaleyFiege
18.Jan.2008 7.26pm
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Five minutes of extra sign up time?! Say it ain’t so!

The number one reason to use flickr is that everyone uses it. Great way to make contacts and meet interesting people.


paul d hunt
18.Jan.2008 7.30pm
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A) everyone else is doing it
2) no one will know
iii) just a little won’t hurt
4) er, um, sorry, wrong answers...


HaleyFiege
18.Jan.2008 7.34pm
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I heard if you smoke flickr without a filter it works better....


joeclark
19.Jan.2008 5.32am
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Real links instead of JavaScript pseudolinks, meaning every photo has a permalink. Tags, sets, collections. You can upload by E-mail or any number of other methods.

Certain tasks are unreasonably difficult on Flickr, but most tasks aren’t.


Joe Clark
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russellm
19.Jan.2008 3.18pm
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I don’t necessarily buy the “more organized interface” theory... I think that can be pretty subjective. Picasa seemed more straight forward and easier to figure out than Flickr, though I haven’t really spent enough time with Flickr to honestly compare.

the pseudo JavaScript link thing, and uploading via email for Flickr I wasn’t aware of.

OK, I’m sold.
(sign... I got a heck of a lot of crap to move over from the Dark Side)

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HaleyFiege
19.Jan.2008 3.47pm
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(sign... I got a heck of a lot of crap to move over from the Dark Side)

Pfft.
Add my as a friend on flickr!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/13659176@N00/


DanGayle
19.Jan.2008 4.03pm
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The API is also pretty awesome. If you have a Wordpress blog, for instance, you can use a plugin to automatically use Flickr as a database of your images if you want to create a photo gallery. That’s what I have on my page Photos.

At my school’s newspaper, we use Flickr to manage all photo content that is going to be published. Editors can comment on which ones they like best, etc., for selection for print. THEN, as an added benefit, our Webmaster can then hotlink to Flickr so that readers can look at higher-res versions and also to comment.

It’s a win-win-win situation.


DanGayle
19.Jan.2008 4.12pm
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dezcom
19.Jan.2008 6.11pm
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Add yourself to the Typophile group there and find all 554 of us :-)

http://flickr.com/groups/typophile/

ChrisL


russellm
19.Jan.2008 9.10pm
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I’m http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramcg/

& its and 555 now
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fontplayer
19.Jan.2008 9.30pm
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I found Flickr makes it unbelievably easy to set up your page. I had one in a few minutes.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fontplaydotcom/


Miss Tiffany
19.Jan.2008 10.14pm
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Dennis, you allow others to use your photos, why not use the Creative Commons license on your pics?


somol
20.Jan.2008 1.53am
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With so many typohiles to advertise their flickr accounts ... I can’t resist adding my bit. Sorry :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pet_r
P.S. I would describe flickr simply as more mature than picasa.


fontplayer
20.Jan.2008 7.28am
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Dennis, you allow others to use your photos, why not use the Creative Commons license on your pics?

Because my terms of use are more liberal than they allow for. I couldn’t find a level that matched up with my terms which are basically:

These are free photos that may be used by anyone for any artistic endeavor,
personal or commercial without having to give credit or a link etc. Use these
images at your own risk.

I have some more CYA wording on a gobbledegook page, but that’s about it.

The page originally came about because I had a hard time being organized, and couldn’t remember where I had got things. I have a system now, but at the time, I thought it would be nice if there was a site with less restrictions.


Quincunx
20.Jan.2008 10.12am
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> With so many typohiles to advertise their flickr accounts ... I can’t resist adding my bit. Sorry :)

Agreed ;)

http://flickr.com/photos/11494488@N05/


Linda Cunningham
20.Jan.2008 10.28am
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Friend of mine with a dial-up account (they live in a rural area with no high-speed availability) uses Picasa — Flickr really wants a high-speed connection: that’s the only real benefit to Picasa that I’ve figured out.


Zennie
20.Jan.2008 5.42pm
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Another great thing about Flickr is you can use the Flock (http://www.flock.com/) browser to very easily upload images from any location and then you can display your images in a media bar across the top of you browser.

Typophiles might be interested in some of my photo sets:

A trip to the Design Museum in London - http://www.flickr.com/photos/19994738@N08/sets/72157603407923000/

Street Art and Stencil images
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19994738@N08/sets/72157603267562100/


Joe Pemberton
21.Jan.2008 7.33am
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Picasa is to Flickr as Windows 3.1 is to Macintosh OS 6. It’s Google’s attempt to catch up to Yahoo’s Flickr (which Yahoo bought because they were smart). In a few years Picasa might be something, but it has neither the tools nor the critical mass to make it great.

By the way, Dan, I thought if I saw your Flickr stream that I might have a chance at figuring out what your avatar/icon image is. No luck. Is it a mold sample in close up? A smashed puppet? Help. =)

Mine: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joepemberton/


Miss Tiffany
21.Jan.2008 11.48am
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DanGayle
21.Jan.2008 12.35pm
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@Joe

Why, I disclosed the full details in a blog post HERE.

What did you think about the rest of the photography?


Joe Pemberton
21.Jan.2008 1.24pm
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Haha. I like your photography a lot... especially some of your black and white band pics. Nice. I’m sorry about those bad things I said about your avatar.


joeclark
21.Jan.2008 3.12pm
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I should mention RSS feeds for everything, including comments on your photos and comments you’ve left on other photos.

Too much Arial if you don’t have Helvetica on your system, though.


Joe Clark
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dylan
22.Jan.2008 6.36am
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Here’s my pile of Flickr pixels:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dylster/

Mostly photos, a few random sketches (a few with type!).

D

_________________
Build a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a day.
Set a man on fire, and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life.


dberlow
22.Jan.2008 7.03am
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”.... Aside from being cool, I mean.”
Cool? stumb’lin around in the unedited photo offerings of a billion people, surrounded by ugly ads, poor page layout and a numbingly cold amount of white space will never, ever, IMHO, be cool.

Cheers!


DanGayle
22.Jan.2008 7.39am
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Cold hearted.


Linda Cunningham
22.Jan.2008 7.56am
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Aw, c’mon David — tell us how you really feel.... ;-)

(And, as a couple of people have pointed out to me via email, I haven’t posted the link for mine either. http://flickr.com/photos/lasquetipress )


russellm
22.Jan.2008 9.39am
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a numbingly cold amount of white space will never, ever, IMHO, be cool.

white space can so be cool.

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Miss Tiffany
22.Jan.2008 10.08am
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In reality many of the photos on Flickr are edited in some way or other.


Stephen Coles
22.Jan.2008 3.19pm
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David - It sounts like you haven’t really given Flickr a chance. Your employees love it. I’m sure you can.


James Arboghast
22.Jan.2008 8.07pm
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Cool? stumb’lin around in the unedited photo offerings of a billion people, surrounded by ugly ads, poor page layout and a numbingly cold amount of white space will never, ever, IMHO, be cool.

These are the features that put me off Flickr as well. It may be convenient in the way it functions, if the glowing reports are anything to go by, but a thing can be practical and lack coolness at the same time. You don’t have to be as smart as David to figure that out. David is smart nonetheless, and sometimes it takes a person as candid as he to buck the mainstream.

I think David has a good point and all you need to do to see it is separate function from form. Anyway, why does David, or anybody else for that matter, have to “love” Flickr? Who is really cynical here—-David or his detractors, those pouring on the unstinting praise?

Millions of people can be wrong or misguided.

The sheer amount of material at places like Flickr and Facebook make them a tedious waste of time for me. I need friends and contacts as much as anyone else, but finding them and “socializing” on the internet is kinda icky and creepy compared to networking in the real world with people I can see and poke for real.

That’s all the sour grapes I got for now. Film at eleven ;^)

j a m e s


HaleyFiege
22.Jan.2008 9.31pm
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I love flickr. There’s so much to look at, and I like that a lot of it is at a more pedestrian level than say travel magazines or science books. I really like to inhale content though, and I understand it’s not for everyone. My idea of a good time is surfing fffound for 2 hours then passing out in a design stuper.


Eben Sorkin
22.Jan.2008 9.50pm
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For me it wasn’t flickr itself but the company I wanted to keep ie fellow Typophiles and Typecon go-ers. But after a while I did start to like Flickr a lot. For one thing the UI while sometimes kooky; does let you do what you want with very little fuss and almost more importantly -undo it. So I suppose I think it’s a very forgiving UI. And if it was cooler it might not be so fast. Really it’s the photos I am there to see - not the cool site design.

Vince, I think the record will show that I am not really a comic sans basher but that Jerk Seasoning looks so utterly faux! Maybe not the bets choice this time I think.

On the other hand this was utterly appropriate:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93279914@N00/138412125/in/set-7215759424835...

And this approaches elegance really despite (not because of ) it’s comic sans-y-ness
http://www.flickr.com/photos/93279914@N00/26776837/in/set-72157594248353...

But back on topic - this shows why Flickr is fun.


Joe Pemberton
22.Jan.2008 11.04pm
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For me it’s not about stumbling around... it’s about viewing pics of old high school friends you wouldn’t otherwise keep in touch with. It’s about meeting some random Veer employee at TypeCon and discovering he also rides a Ducati cuz you found his Flickr stream. It’s about staying in touch with someone who moved to Austin. And then maybe connecting for a meal at SxSW.


Stephen Coles
22.Jan.2008 11.55pm
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Joe’s got it. It’s a social resource as much as it is a visual resource.


russellm
23.Jan.2008 4.15am
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mmmm.

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fontplayer
23.Jan.2008 6.33am
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It is sort of like Usenet used to be (minus the porn). Whatever thing you are into, there is a group based on it.


DanGayle
23.Jan.2008 8.42am
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Wow Dennis, do I sense an air of disappointment?


fontplayer
23.Jan.2008 8.46am
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No, I’m good with it as it is.
; )


Linda Cunningham
23.Jan.2008 6.57pm
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And there are so many other contributions to the Comic Sans pool — heaven knows I find and post a few.... ;-)

(Friend of mine here just finished her 365days — the last time I looked, almost 1500 people viewed her last photo. In many ways, it’s a more interesting social phenomenon than Facebook.)


fontplayer
23.Jan.2008 8.01pm
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On the DVD “The Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir I’m Amazed...Live” I just saw Comic Sans on a lesson header at their Learning Center. Even God is using Comic Sans.


dezcom
24.Jan.2008 6.19am
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Not God, just God’s Church Lady :-)

ChrisL


fontplayer
24.Jan.2008 8.17am
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Well, as she would say, “Isn’t that special.”


James Arboghast
27.Jan.2008 2.19pm
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I love flickr. There’s so much to look at, and I like that a lot of it is at a more pedestrian level than say travel magazines or science books. I really like to inhale content though, and I understand it’s not for everyone. My idea of a good time is surfing fffound for 2 hours then passing out in a design stuper.

“Stupor”. I appreciate what you’re saying Haley. We’re all individuals, and I thrive on some of the things you prefer Flickr to. Travel magazines bore me. Boosk on art and science fascinate me. That kind of material fires my imagination and I draw creative inspiration from it. Looking at tons of images clogs up my mind.

I don’t have much use for Flickr, and there isn’t room or time in my life for it. With so much media making up our lives, mine is already full to capacity. Social appointments to keep, friends to visit and entertain—-most people have them, and for me they come first. The internet comes last.

Flickr’s function as a social resource is fine—-except it has much more relevance for people dwelling on the North American continent than for an Australian. We have no Typecon down here. It seems most major players in the type industry are located in North America or Europe. I could use Flickr to stay in touch with people working in those places. Except I can’t pull airline tickets out of my rear end. The upshot isn’t practical for me.

As a way of staying in touch with people Flickr is all very well. I already do that by email tho, and it’s much more intimate that way. I crave intimacy whenever I can get it. The open air exposed public nature of the internet puts me off.

Flickr is wonderful and I don’t have a problem with it. Flickr duplicates aspects of living already covered by other resources and institutions which already serve me.

Boring.

j a m e s


dberlow
28.Jan.2008 1.42pm
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“Cold hearted.”
I didn’t mean it that way, sorry.
“For me it’s not about stumbling around...”
...nor is it about posting, by your examples. ;)
“It sounds like you haven’t really given Flickr a chance.”
Or perhaps, the other way around? :)

See also, http://typophile.com/node/41275

Cheers!


Amulet
31.Jan.2008 7.24am
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I’ve had several online storage sites/portfolio sites over the years - and have abandonned them all for various reasons (limiting uploads, switching to pay-for-use, etc). Flikr might be just what I’ve been looking for.

Dennis - I found your site again today after loosing the url. I appreciate the images that you’ve graciously shared. Spent a few hours today working with XenoDream and figuring out the best way of adding photographic/textured backgrounds to images (with varying degrees of success ...)


vinceconnare
31.Jan.2008 1.57pm
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I use it to save America’s bad World image.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93279914@N00/2217435546/


russellm
1.Feb.2008 6.36am
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Good luck with that, Vince.

Speaking of which... Poling Place Photo Project.

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fontplayer
3.Feb.2008 8.38am
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Dennis - I found your site again today after loosing the url. I appreciate the images that you’ve graciously shared.

My pleasure. Good to see you here. There are lots of pro type designers here, so it is a more educational atmosphere than the old hangout.

A few tips, if you want to check for replies you can track your threads from your ID page:
http://typophile.com/user/26576

Then any threads you showed an interest in will migrate to the top when anyone posts to that page.

And all the most current comments can be tracked using this link:
http://typophile.com/tracker

Best wishes from So. Cal.