Like what's in it? And which issue?

hhp

OK, a quick breakdown...

Profiles of Jonathan Barnbrook and Max Kisman.

Tayme Riggs, Nick Shinn, Stuart Sandler, Richard Kegler on how to create better Typography.

An article on how to create a font from your handwriting, followed by how to set up your own site to sell your type (it's that easy!).

Identikal show how to make a display font from scratch.

Pixelsurgeons on how to make a pixel font

A spread on Eboy and PEECOL fonts

Leslie Cabarga on designing logo's and fonts

Making money from fonts with Ken Munk, Richard Kelger, Joe Van Der Bros and Chris Lowery.

The issue is called "Computer Arts projects : Total Guide, Typography, Logos and Fonts" .

Wow, thanks for the list! That's a definite "buy", then.

But what issue NUMBER is it?

hhp

Issue 57, April 2004

Can you get Computer Arts in the US? I guess with all those lovely football pitch sized book stores, you can get most things.

Jim
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure I've seen that mag over here now and again.

> football pitch

You guys are weird, using an egg-shaped ball for playing baseball, golly.

hhp

If you can't find a copy, drop me a line and I'll mail you a copy.

JIM
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Wow, what a nice offer! Let me see if I can find it though.

hhp

Hrant, the Borders on La Cienega normally carries the magazine but is currently out of stock; the Barnes and Noble in Glendale only has the March issue. Maybe we have to be patient. Have you found it anywhere else?

Hey, thanks for checking! Yeah, I called the Borders and the B&N in Glendale: both carry the magazine, but neither had it in stock, and of course they had no clue when they'd get a shipment. I was worried that the April issue had already come and sold out*, so I called the grand-daddy of magazine stands in LA: Bungalow News in Pasadena, where they keep track of everything - real pros. They had the March/#56 in stock, and said the April should arrive by the end of next week. The big dumb chains will probably get it around then too.

* Although since the magazine is an import that seemed unlikely.

hhp

Tamye: Good to see you round here, been a while

Tamye

Your in 'Our Experts bring you 30 professional guidelines for creating better typography...'

1 - Hyphenation consternation
5 - Mind your ems and ens
7 - To justify, or not to justify?
16 - Figuratively speaking

Nick Shinn, Richard Kegler and Brian Sooy are in the same piece

I pick up this magazine sometimes and I've noticed that they have two types of editions: the normal Computer Arts issue and the Computer Arts Special issue. The Special issues are always anthologies of previously published articles from the regular Computer Arts issues on a particular topic (type, Photoshop, Flash, whatever).

By the way, why is the type in Computer Arts so darned tiny? This is especially true in their how-to articles. The explanatory text is sometimes set in about 5-point type. You need a magnifying glass to see the screen shots.

> Tamye = very generous to SOTA
> CA = irresponsible with contributors

The first line, definitely, but there's probably an unwritten (and maybe even written - somewhere, in small print) agreement that they can re-use anything a writer submits. I think that's standard practice for a magazine, even when you simply submit a letter, let alone an article they pay you (or barter) for.

hhp

So I got the issue today (thanks again for the ref -and that generous backup offer- Jim), and it's not cheap, but man is it a keeper! Nearly a hundred pages of pure font action, covering a huge spectrum, and largely competently too. Most books about type don't have this much content.

hhp

I went back to the store which had the magazine and they have sold out... so glad you got a copy over there. Tamye you may want to get the address of the place Hrant got his copy, as I may not be able to get you one. (If I can I'll send it to you via Max Kisman who is in the UK next week).

Jim
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Bungalow News
746 E. Colorado Blvd.
Pasadena, CA
(No Zip handy.)

626-795-9456

www.bungalownews.com

hhp

have you checked out the font disk, I couldn't believe it had so many good quality faces on it.

JIM
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Not just the fonts, but the software too!!
You know what? I had the same uncomfortable feeling I get whenever you get so much value for money: how in hell are people supposed to think buying fonts (and software) outright makes any sense? The prices companies charge for software starts looking extremely suspicious.

hhp

Finally got my hands on this issue. They printed a caption about Joe Van Der Bos' work under a pic of my dingbat 'Wappenbee', If you read this Joe, I'm sorry. I hope it isn't ruining your business and reputation for ever. Great company to be in, though. The P22 playing cards are brill.

you can order back issues
here
costs

Oh, now I've got to see this thing.

Any publicity is better than none, they say. And I'm sure I'll benefit from association with such fine company. I'll set up a web site link for the misinformed as soon as I see the issue, Kenn.

How odd - although I wrote an article for this mag back in fall 2002 for their 2003 typography ish, I did not knowingly contribute to the current issue. Are they recycling material, or have I just lost my mind?

Jim, what's the title of the article I am quoted in or whatever? The piece I did for them in 2002 featured typographic tips and tricks from a number of other designers, including Nick, Rich, and Stuart, as well as Allan Haley, Brian Sooy, etc.

I'd love to get my hands on a copy if you could send me one. I'll buy you cocktails at TypeCon in exchange for you purchasing and mailing it to me

Hey, Kyle Good to take a break from TypeCon planning to be a Typophile again!

Jim, that sounds like the exact piece I did for them in 2002, except it sounds like they've switched the order of the tips and tricks around. Some of the other content sounds like stuff from the same issue (#39, on stands in late Nov. 2002). Weird.

Were you paid twice, Tamye? Or am I going to have to kick some fanny?

I traded the original piece for ad space for TypeCon2003. I did it for that specific issue, and they never mentioned re-publishing in future issues, nor did they contact me about it.

Until I'm proven otherwise:

Tamye = very generous to SOTA
CA = irresponsible with contributors