Not quite Universe

Hi, I need to identify this typography in the Puma Dassler logo. I need to know the DASSLER and SCHUHFABRIK type. It really looks like Univers Ultra condensed. But still, it doesn't fit.

Does anybody know?



How about Helvetica Compressed/Inserat then?

Actually it looks like Univers Ultra compressed, but it lacks a Bold variant.
And what abour the Puma type? Does anybody know which is it?

thanks again!

Could be Folio Bold Condensed.

The PUMA logo is probably custom and hand-drawn.