I don’t remember Anselm being discussed much here or elsewhere. Has anyone used it? It is certainly an impressive type system in its coverage of sans and serif, multitude of weights, and Cyrillic and Greek scripts. It certainly seems to have aspirations of being a versatile workhorse.
What do people think of its Baroque spirit and distinctive flavour, though? As much as I admire it, I do worry it might be a bit too flashy for “serious” work. I guess you can never accuse František Štorm of being boring...
Brian,
I was glad to see Anselm on the list as well. I actually did a small writeup that hasn’t been published yet, which hits all the same points about the family that you just made. Overall I feel it’s a very solid type system, but definitely should be saved for occasions when appropriate and probably not suitable for everyday work (although i don’t think I would mind seeing it all the time).
Paul: although i don’t think I would mind seeing [Anselm] all the time
Neither would I! Though right now, I haven’t seen it in use anywhere, and I’m itching to see examples. I know, it was only released last year, but hey, I’m impatient.
In my search for Anselm in use, I ran into this surreal thread about the font choice for labels in an open calculator project. As far as I can tell, a group of aficionados are collaborating to build a calculator, code name Phoenix. One of them has suggested Anselm (sans, I believe) for the labels, and has even contacted Franta Štorm about extending the character set as needed for a scientific calculator, and got a positive response from him.
I am particularly impressed with Fondo, which looks like a really strong workhorse text face. And National, which we have already seen here on Typophile. Congratulations to Kris!
Given the fact, that the font is only used in a very small size, thus details (and flaws) are hardly discernable, do we judge it worthwhile to pay 45 EUR instead of using characters from free fonts? There are even font editors out there, making it possible to create our own special characters that can’t be found elsewhere.
It isn’t the submission for the competition, no, but it is what I put together for the exhibition (and yes, I know there are a couple of typos in the text).
Fondo is quite refined, and presidencia is interesting, although i think the screen is making the s and c (on presidencia at the top) look a little big.
I am chuffed to see so many Typophilers in the winners circle. Contratulations to them all: John Hudson, Alejandro Paul, Dino dos Santos, Kris Sowersby, and Marian Bantjes. Wonderful work!
Where necessary, the jury was advised about non-Latin script entries by the TDC Non-Latin Advisory Board, which was for this year comprised of:
...
John Hudson
...
How does that work? I’m hoping he recused himself when it came to the category that he was entered in and subsequently won. I’ve heard grumblings about conflict of interest in the past. Not that I’m saying that’s the situation here, but I’m just curious how this gets played out.
Dan, yes, I did excuse myself from the non-Latin advisory panel this year, as did Fiona Ross. We wrote to Maxim Zhukov, organiser of the advisory panel, and to Matthew Carter, the chairman, prior to the competition to let them know that neither of us were able to participate because we were submitting a design. We recommended some possible replacements. Maxim later contacted me to see if I could recommend someone qualified to take a look at entries in two scripts for which he did not have advisors (neither script Devanagari), and I gave him some names. He was unable to find anyone to review one of the entries, and asked me some questions about the design, to which I gave what I believe were impartial answers regarding its fitness to the stated purpose of the design (low res devices). I believe, although I have not seen confirmation yet, that the design was the ’OTS Ethiopic’ from Monotype Imaging, for which the TDC are apparently awaiting artwork for the website.
It’s unfortunate that the number of people with experience designing for certain scripts is small, but such scripts shouldn’t be penalised during the judging due to lack of qualified advice.
I’m totally in love with the mexican entries!!!
Precidencia is lovely... perhaps still a work in progress... I hope it comes to retail.
Fondo is gorgeous too
John wrote:
“yes, I did excuse myself from the non-Latin advisory panel this year, as did Fiona Ross.”
And, just for the record, I also withdraw from the NLAB when any of my students’ non-Latin typeface designs are submitted - as was the case with Titus Nemeth’s Nassim.
BTW I appreciate the comments re the Vodafone Hindi design.
Thanks
Fiona
I’ve got some love for the new script fonts from Ken (Barber) at House. And for Tiina. And... And... And. How to choose. I guess if I have to choose my favorite is... nevermind, I can’t. Congratulations to all!
Hi, I think it’s my first post here. I’ve seen my name and, you know…
Unfortunately, Fondo is not for sale. It was a custom font exclusive for Fondo de Cultura Económica. It had pros and cons: as a pre-paid job I had all the tranquility to focus my efforts on this project for a year or so (and I suppose that influenced the forms), but on the other hand it was, from the beginning, only for them.
Anyway, your comments makes me keep going, since it’s my first really finished work, because the other one, Espinosa —a revival from the Mexican XVIth Century, commented in this forum long time ago— still awaiting and requires a major surgery.
Mmmmh, it seems that I killed the posts with my last one. Sorry.
Just a word about James Puckett comment:
Given the type coming out of Mexico right now I think this is probably just the start of a trend.
Thanks for the comment, James. That felt good. I just wanna say that actually it’s not the first time that two Mexican are selected in the same year. It happened in 2006 —Gabriel Martínez Meave (yes, Presidencia’s author) and Alejandro Lo Celso, although Lo Celso is certainly more Argentinian than Mexican—, and in 2005 Leonardo Vázquez won with Bunker, a display face. And Martínez Meave again in 2001. Maybe the difference is that this year we had significant clients: a renowned publishing house and the Presidency of Mexico (no less).
Ah, Tipos Latinos will be this April (24, 25 and 26) in Veracruz. Gabriel Martínez Meave, Alejandro Paul and myself will be there. More info (only in Spanish, sorry):
ATypI in Mexico? Are you sure? I haven’t heard that yet. Wonderful! Easier to attend than St. Petersburg. I’ll start planning....
I was going to suggest (again) that TypeCon be held there, but no matter. Tipos Latinos sounds marvelous but it’s coming up so soon. Well, a local AND an international conference.... Have a great time, all of you attending. Who else is attending? Someone bring a report back! Hola to GMM and Ale.
It was announced in Brighton, at the same time as the announcement of the St Petersburg conference. Roger Black, who has Danilo Black offices in Mexico, is one of the principal organisers, so I expect it to be a very good conference.
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24.Feb.2008 5.52pm
Sara Soskolne, they missplet her name.
24.Feb.2008 6.01pm
Aren’t some of those older than 2007?
24.Feb.2008 6.02pm
they did missplet it ;^)
24.Feb.2008 6.02pm
Congrats to all the of winners!
24.Feb.2008 7.39pm
I love the sample for Ventura.
24.Feb.2008 8.04pm
I like the Palatino Arabic sea of blood (probably not the interpretation that Nadine had in mind.)
:)
24.Feb.2008 11.55pm
I don’t remember Anselm being discussed much here or elsewhere. Has anyone used it? It is certainly an impressive type system in its coverage of sans and serif, multitude of weights, and Cyrillic and Greek scripts. It certainly seems to have aspirations of being a versatile workhorse.
What do people think of its Baroque spirit and distinctive flavour, though? As much as I admire it, I do worry it might be a bit too flashy for “serious” work. I guess you can never accuse František Štorm of being boring...
25.Feb.2008 2.20am
Brian,
I was glad to see Anselm on the list as well. I actually did a small writeup that hasn’t been published yet, which hits all the same points about the family that you just made. Overall I feel it’s a very solid type system, but definitely should be saved for occasions when appropriate and probably not suitable for everyday work (although i don’t think I would mind seeing it all the time).
25.Feb.2008 3.18am
hoohaa! vodafone hindi is gorgeous.
25.Feb.2008 4.04am
Paul: although i don’t think I would mind seeing [Anselm] all the time
Neither would I! Though right now, I haven’t seen it in use anywhere, and I’m itching to see examples. I know, it was only released last year, but hey, I’m impatient.
In my search for Anselm in use, I ran into this surreal thread about the font choice for labels in an open calculator project. As far as I can tell, a group of aficionados are collaborating to build a calculator, code name Phoenix. One of them has suggested Anselm (sans, I believe) for the labels, and has even contacted Franta Štorm about extending the character set as needed for a scientific calculator, and got a positive response from him.
Wow, that’s one use I had not thought of.
25.Feb.2008 4.56am
I am particularly impressed with Fondo, which looks like a really strong workhorse text face. And National, which we have already seen here on Typophile. Congratulations to Kris!
25.Feb.2008 5.15am
from said surreal thread...
Given the fact, that the font is only used in a very small size, thus details (and flaws) are hardly discernable, do we judge it worthwhile to pay 45 EUR instead of using characters from free fonts? There are even font editors out there, making it possible to create our own special characters that can’t be found elsewhere.
25.Feb.2008 6.28am
It would be nice to see judging criteria for each category to understand on what basis the winning fonts were selected... anyone know if this exists?
25.Feb.2008 6.40am
I suspect that some of this might change from year to year, since every contest has different judging panels. But that is just my guess.
25.Feb.2008 10.42am
Loved tiina. Excellent colour and line.
25.Feb.2008 1.55pm
Tiina is the most exciting one for me as well — at least of those that are new to me.
25.Feb.2008 3.35pm
hoohaa! vodafone hindi is gorgeous.
Something so lyrical rendered so cleanly—I had to stare for a while.
25.Feb.2008 5.51pm
For anyone wanting to take a closer look at the Vodafone Hindi, I’ve put a PDF online:
http://www.tiro.com/John/VodafoneHindiPanels.pdf
26.Feb.2008 6.02am
John, is it the same document you sent to the TDC?
26.Feb.2008 12.36pm
It isn’t the submission for the competition, no, but it is what I put together for the exhibition (and yes, I know there are a couple of typos in the text).
26.Feb.2008 12.42pm
Fondo is quite refined, and presidencia is interesting, although i think the screen is making the s and c (on presidencia at the top) look a little big.
27.Feb.2008 4.14am
I love Ventura :)
It’s always nice to see a good Portuguese name on the podium. Go Dino!
-
www.nunocoelho.com
27.Feb.2008 8.03am
Obrigado Nuno!
27.Feb.2008 8.39am
I am chuffed to see so many Typophilers in the winners circle. Contratulations to them all: John Hudson, Alejandro Paul, Dino dos Santos, Kris Sowersby, and Marian Bantjes. Wonderful work!
27.Feb.2008 10.56am
Thanks William, I m very happy!
27.Feb.2008 4.49pm
Just curious about this one thing:
Where necessary, the jury was advised about non-Latin script entries by the TDC Non-Latin Advisory Board, which was for this year comprised of:
...
John Hudson
...
How does that work? I’m hoping he recused himself when it came to the category that he was entered in and subsequently won. I’ve heard grumblings about conflict of interest in the past. Not that I’m saying that’s the situation here, but I’m just curious how this gets played out.
27.Feb.2008 8.12pm
I’m glad to see two Mexican winners:
Gabriel Martínez with Presidencia (a rework of Eureka Sans) for the federal government.
Cristóbal Henestrosa with Fondo for the Mexican kind of Penguin publishing house.
I liked Al Rajhi very much, I have never liked an Arabic typeface before.
Héctor
27.Feb.2008 9.56pm
Dan, yes, I did excuse myself from the non-Latin advisory panel this year, as did Fiona Ross. We wrote to Maxim Zhukov, organiser of the advisory panel, and to Matthew Carter, the chairman, prior to the competition to let them know that neither of us were able to participate because we were submitting a design. We recommended some possible replacements. Maxim later contacted me to see if I could recommend someone qualified to take a look at entries in two scripts for which he did not have advisors (neither script Devanagari), and I gave him some names. He was unable to find anyone to review one of the entries, and asked me some questions about the design, to which I gave what I believe were impartial answers regarding its fitness to the stated purpose of the design (low res devices). I believe, although I have not seen confirmation yet, that the design was the ’OTS Ethiopic’ from Monotype Imaging, for which the TDC are apparently awaiting artwork for the website.
It’s unfortunate that the number of people with experience designing for certain scripts is small, but such scripts shouldn’t be penalised during the judging due to lack of qualified advice.
27.Feb.2008 10.02pm
That’s cool. I’m glad that there is honor amongst Typophiles :)
28.Feb.2008 1.06am
Hello All:
Its about time Mommie get the award!!!
I’m totally in love with the mexican entries!!!
Precidencia is lovely... perhaps still a work in progress... I hope it comes to retail.
Fondo is gorgeous too
also very interesting to see so many new names!!!
congrats to all
Mikey :-)
28.Feb.2008 5.05am
John wrote:
“yes, I did excuse myself from the non-Latin advisory panel this year, as did Fiona Ross.”
And, just for the record, I also withdraw from the NLAB when any of my students’ non-Latin typeface designs are submitted - as was the case with Titus Nemeth’s Nassim.
BTW I appreciate the comments re the Vodafone Hindi design.
Thanks
Fiona
28.Feb.2008 5.56am
You’re welcome Fiona, and thanks for the pdf Jon.
I would love to see the hindi sitting alongside the roman if at all possible! You really can taste interface in there. Beautskiful.
28.Feb.2008 6.08am
I’m glad to see two Mexican winners:
Given the type coming out of Mexico right now I think this is probably just the start of a trend.
28.Feb.2008 9.21am
Congrats all. Some amazing designs, from so many diverse countries. 2 Czech, 2 Mexican, 3 Arabic, an Argentinian, and a New Zealander. Sweet!
28.Feb.2008 10.20am
Is Fondo for sale?
28.Feb.2008 10.41am
I’ve got some love for the new script fonts from Ken (Barber) at House. And for Tiina. And... And... And. How to choose. I guess if I have to choose my favorite is... nevermind, I can’t. Congratulations to all!
29.Feb.2008 5.27pm
Hi, I think it’s my first post here. I’ve seen my name and, you know…
Unfortunately, Fondo is not for sale. It was a custom font exclusive for Fondo de Cultura Económica. It had pros and cons: as a pre-paid job I had all the tranquility to focus my efforts on this project for a year or so (and I suppose that influenced the forms), but on the other hand it was, from the beginning, only for them.
Anyway, your comments makes me keep going, since it’s my first really finished work, because the other one, Espinosa —a revival from the Mexican XVIth Century, commented in this forum long time ago— still awaiting and requires a major surgery.
Best,
CH
29.Feb.2008 5.28pm
Mmmmh, it seems that I killed the posts with my last one. Sorry.
Just a word about James Puckett comment:
Given the type coming out of Mexico right now I think this is probably just the start of a trend.
Thanks for the comment, James. That felt good. I just wanna say that actually it’s not the first time that two Mexican are selected in the same year. It happened in 2006 —Gabriel Martínez Meave (yes, Presidencia’s author) and Alejandro Lo Celso, although Lo Celso is certainly more Argentinian than Mexican—, and in 2005 Leonardo Vázquez won with Bunker, a display face. And Martínez Meave again in 2001. Maybe the difference is that this year we had significant clients: a renowned publishing house and the Presidency of Mexico (no less).
Of course, I hope this will be repeated. ;)
CH
4.Mar.2008 4.00pm
So when can we come down to the DF for drinks and to look at type with you all? Maybe you’ll have an international conference soon....
5.Mar.2008 4.13pm
Ah, Tipos Latinos will be this April (24, 25 and 26) in Veracruz. Gabriel Martínez Meave, Alejandro Paul and myself will be there. More info (only in Spanish, sorry):
http://www.tiposlatinos.com/2008/sede.php?id=18
And it’s not pretty soon, but the 2009 Atypi conference will be in Mexico City (September or October, seems to be). Hope to see you here by then.
CH
5.Mar.2008 4.47pm
!!!!
ATypI in Mexico? Are you sure? I haven’t heard that yet. Wonderful! Easier to attend than St. Petersburg. I’ll start planning....
I was going to suggest (again) that TypeCon be held there, but no matter. Tipos Latinos sounds marvelous but it’s coming up so soon. Well, a local AND an international conference.... Have a great time, all of you attending. Who else is attending? Someone bring a report back! Hola to GMM and Ale.
5.Mar.2008 5.41pm
ATypI in Mexico City sounds fabulous. I’m not sure if the ATypI part or the steaks cooked Mexican-style is more attractive, though ;)
5.Mar.2008 5.45pm
ATypI in Mexico? Are you sure?
It was announced in Brighton, at the same time as the announcement of the St Petersburg conference. Roger Black, who has Danilo Black offices in Mexico, is one of the principal organisers, so I expect it to be a very good conference.