Type Battle 23: Typographic Love Child

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Type Battle 23: Typographic Love Child
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Here's your chance to stretch your type muscles on a weekly basis. You have one week to create and submit your entry. Anyone may submit a design response to the challenge. You may enter as often as you wish. Post anytime. Critiques and comments are welcome throughout the game, from participants and spectators alike. Smack talk is encouraged.

As with any street battle, there is no panel of judges and no prize — only the ability to call yourself the best on the block.

Link directly to this thread: http://www.typophile.com/battle23

// REQUIREMENTS

- Image size: 550 width x 400 height. 72 dpi
- Color: Black and white
- Format: Please save your graphics as PNG

// THIS WEEK'S CHALLENGE:

Garamond and Zebrawood walk into a bar, they have a few drinks and one thing leads to another… (yes they were hanging out at the same bar, believe it or not).

Create from scratch, the typographic love child of:
Garamond and Zebrawood

Winner take all, no holds barred. May be the best designer win.

Ruben David Marques's picture
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Well, I think I'll be sitting this one out. I do have a question, though: which one's carrying the baby?

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Quick Visual Pun: He looks like his father, but he's got his mother's "I"s.

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I like how the last part of the word spells "mate". Very clever Natecox

Malte

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It's not as far fetched as it sounds - But you would have to be skillful to avoid letting zebrawood overwhelm.

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Actually I was just intimidated about the prospect of doing something even roughly based on Garamond… not that Zebrawood isn't skillfully designed, of course. And also, I think I'd have a rough time mixing styles like that. I think I'll leave this to the pros. At least for now.
I hope the pros aren't too busy! I'm curious as to how they'd do this… certainly there's many ways to tackle this and I'm on typophile looking for inspiration! ;P
Are you giving it a go, Eben? Good luck for all takers!

{Edit: not that this is very dependent on luck. :P I think there's more to this child than meets the I, Nate… :D}

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maybe... depends on what else is on the list...

I might have a god at a word though. If you are feeling intimidated consider looking at Jan Van Krimpens's outlined Roman, and Majoor's decorated Romans ( diamond, pearl etc ). That at least is what I have in mind. Obviously - go a different way if you like!

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;)
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I didn't know that Jewel collection, it's interesting. But those are all caps too! I was having a hard time visualizing the lowercase for this. But I'm still thinking about it, maybe I won't give up… :P

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I don't think I'll continue this one : ) For what it's worth:

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Nice, Christian. It has a bit of an oriental feel to it.

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For the titles of "103 dalmatians"? ;D

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Something very tattoo and ink about that, Christian. I like it a lot.

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According to the Blend function of Illustrator, this is what it should look like:

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I said I was going to stop on this one, but I couldn't help myself. Here's the lowercase:

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Christain, the y z & Z are especially tasty.

Here is my crit (to be taken with a pinch of salt)

What about the top of the f? Maybe it could be like the arm of the r. What about dropping the height of the white inside the o on the left side - sort of like it is on the c? I am not sure about the spur on the join on the g. What about pulling the white down further inside the s so it's more like the other letters?

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Eben, it sound like you need to throw down and show how it's done ;-)

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If I was less crushed I might.

Of course, as it stands I would say you are the leader so maybe there isn't any point in tweakage. Yet. ;-)

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Not so many submissions for this one! Christian's looks great (as usual), and Chipman's raised a chuckle (not so much a love-child as one of those aborted clones out of ‘Alien Resurrection’). I'm hoping to get the time to have a go...
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I can't truly call mine an entry, more of an experiment. I didn't really do anything by hand, but I thought the results were interesting. I think Christian crushed this one, especially with his choice to do lower case.

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Sorry for breaking the black-and-white rule, but wasn't Zebrawood supposed to be chromatic type?

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Are you all gonna sit back and just let Christian crush you so easily? Where is the competition?

And no, don't look at me, I can't draw type very well :P

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I was sort of crushed to begin with… :D But I'm still thinking about it. I need more time to let this marinate inside my head. :P

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Nice Jongseong! It's very clearly Garamond and Zebrawood.

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Yeah, I think Brian has given Christian a run for the money. Not sure where I come down yet. Christian's nips at the top of his letters are mighty cool. As is the limited use of ornament.... Brian's is no slouch though. It might will by sheer cohesion.

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(sorry!)

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Win that is. Not will.

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For anyone who is interested I have posted a public beta "Zebramond" here at Betatype. It only supports upper and lower case for now.

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It's probably not in the spirit of the battle for me to admire my opponents, but I think Christian's Zebramond is really charming. It kind of reminds me of Kris Sowerby's Hokotohu with its ornamented letterforms, but it also has an organic inked-in quality to it. I can picture it being used on a logotype somewhere.

With my entry, I concentrated too much on combining Garamond's outlines and Zebrawood's internal patterns so that the allusion to each design was as clear as possible. It serves the purpose of this battle, but I doubt it's going to amount to much outside it.

And so far, no one has called me out for cheating and only using lowercase letters confined to the x-height. It was unintended, I swear...

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Oops, apologies for misspelling Kris Sowersby's name...

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Christian, that's great! It's looking better & better.

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And so far, no one has called me out for cheating and only using lowercase letters confined to the x-height. It was unintended, I swear...

I don't think this breaks any rules at all! Push the envelope.

However, I will call you out on using Garamond outlines :) But if you drew it from scratch as the rules state, then I am clearly wrong. I just want to be the one talking smack.

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While I did not modify Garamond outlines directly, I did stick them in the background and retraced them with minimal alteration. So much of that being automated, though, I'm becoming less sure if that counts as drawing from scratch.

If I had the time, though, I would have created a freer variation on the theme like Christian has. If you look closely at my entry's background white, you can see artifacts of combining layers to create the chromatic effect, indicating what a rushed bang-up job it was.

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...ah, well, the "from scratch" bit is probably going to trip me up though: must admit I hadn't read the instructions thoroughly enough! Still, this was a bit of a rush-job anyway (what with painting a birthday card for my mum and an ambigram on a mug for a leaving colleague this week I don't feel I've had much creative time left...)

Drew the lower bits of the characters myself though (suppose that comes from actually having Garamond but not Zebrawood)!


I assumed that Zebrawood's 3D and spots were recessive genes, but the fat wobbly bottom was dominant... ;-D

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I'm new here and I just discovered these competitions... I'm definitely going to have to get in on this next week!

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It was late and I.... And I'm more sorry than sihep.

http://ilovetypography.com/img/ze-bra.png

How to embed the image?

johno

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Here's an improvement to mine. I deleted the "unadulterated-Garamond" bits from the top, so it's proper "from scratch" as requested now (except possibly the crossbar on the G, now I think of it). Had enough time to add a certain amount of 3D now too. Phew! (Surely "from scratch" should have been in the instructions for battle 22!!!!)


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Heh, it looks like a psychadelic circus font now - those fat feet remind me of Crumb's truckin' dudes.

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Oh! Just in time... I come in here few days ago and I thought: OH! Garawood is the answer! Aha! But Roger's faster response left me with this quick and with updated name, Ladies, Gents, I give you:

GARWOOD Lettering

¡ he he !

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For me, D. Wiewauters wins this one.

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The insert image link has reappeared (perhaps it's a Safari thing). Anyway:

I know you wrote "from scratch", but I couldn't resist. However, my money is on Natecox.

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WOW, Wiewauters, that's very nice!!!
nice to see a less literal, but clearly influenced version.

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Can I suggest a challenge? How does it work?

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WOW, Wiewauters, that’s very nice!!!
nice to see a less literal, but clearly influenced version.

Well Paul, I'm glad you like it! Though I must admit that I slightly cheated. The font I showed were two weights (medium & bold) from 6 of the displayfonts of my graduationproject. These displayfonts are based upon my textface and NOT Garamond.

I just thought, well heck, why not, I've never showed any work on typophile and it fit's in this battle, maybe its time ... but to be honest I think the victory should go to Christian, he did it in the correct timespan.

Dries

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@aleksander: If you have any Type Battle recommendations, please send them to typophile punchcut com.

Good job everyone! So glad to see people coming out of the woodwork to participate. Based on creativity, talent and the ability to follow all the rules, I hereby declare Christian the winner. And I'm not just saying that because he has a Nerf gun on his desk and could easily shoot me from across the room.

Stay tuned for the next battle…

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Thanks Zara, sent it.

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