Windows Font Managers (vista 64 bit)

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Windows Font Managers (vista 64 bit)
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Hello, sorry if I am beating a dead horse here but I didn't find anything recent on this question.

But I am looking for a good type manager for windows with out having to spend to much, or none at all :P

I tried a free trial of a software I can't for the life of me remember the name of, but it was horrible.

I am a fan of extensis on my mac at work but don't have that budget at home.

Any suggetions? Also using vista (64 bit) if that matters.

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ps anyone else having troubles typing in firefox here on typophile?

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...Firefox has been behaving fine for all my posts here today.

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Ever since I chose to block pop-ups, my toaster's stopped working.

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Was it Linotype Font Explorer X?

http://www.linotype.com/3321/freedownloadpc.html?PHPSESSID=474f6eb195ab0...

P.S. I'm also on Firefox and no problems for me.
P.P.S. Dave, your signature shouldn't have the possessive toaster, just drop the 's and it'll be fine.

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"P.P.S. Dave, your signature shouldn’t have the possessive toaster, just drop the ’s and it’ll be fine."

Unless it's a contraction of "toaster has"

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Unless it’s a contraction of “toaster has”

That's possible, but that's not necessary either. "...has stopped..." is poor grammar.

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No it was not Linotype's, which I understand they stopped offering anyway?

It just had a horrible interface and didn't so much activate/deactivate fonts as it just installed them in the system folder, which I would like to avoid.

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didn’t so much activate/deactivate fonts as it just installed them in the system folder,

That's what all the font management programs do. They either add a copy or a link the fonts when you activate them in the system folder, then when you deactivate it deletes the copy/link.

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Yes but this application did not reset itself say like suitcase. Without keeping a record of which fonts you had installed and then going back and manually deleting these files, thy would become a permanent file in the system font folder, which bloated my system fonts on a day to day basis.

Yes I could keep better record of which I had "installed" but when I would accopy over several fonts in a design session I just don't seem to remember them all.

Anyway, guess I will just start saving for suitcase, as I am comfortable with it.

Thanks!
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That’s what all the font management programs do. They either add a copy or a link the fonts when you activate them in the system folder, then when you deactivate it deletes the copy/link.

This is only partly true. When modern font managers like Suitcase activate a font on Windows, they do so programmatically by modifying one of two different registry keys depending on the font type. If you look at C:\Windows\Fonts\ it will appear as though the directory contains shortcuts. This is the way Microsoft has chosen to represent the Windows font system. The fonts folder, though, is not a normal directory. The only way files can be added to it are though the Add Fonts dialog. So, the "shortcuts" are really created by Windows to represent the state of the font system, which is reasonable. After a font is added, other API calls are made to update the system and tell Windows to refresh the font menus of open applications.

This has varied somewhat over time as well. My understanding is that Suitcase 9.x did in fact do something similar to creating a shortcut. Suitcase 11 (Windows) does use the method I've described however.

On the Mac OS X side, there has always been a robust programming interface for font activation. As far as I know, nothing like a shortcut has ever been used.

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Well fixed my typing problem in firefox, had to run safe mode through terminal and reset everything to factory defaults and it fixed me right up.

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Okay I just read that Extensis does not support the 64 bit version of vista, which is of coarse the version I run.

So any ideas for an alternative?

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(Sorry for the sidetrack, but Andrew: as Jonathan suggests, I'm saying "Since I did X, Y has happened." (I'm certainly not claiming to have several toasters, which would be the implication without the apostrophe!) This may be considered bad grammar in the States -- I wouldn't know -- but it's fine over here! I've never had anyone pull me up on apostrophe use before: it's one of my own bugbears! ... I should probably change this sig anyway, as it was a fairly weak joke to start with, but at least ’twas mine own!)
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Shameful bump

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Dave, it's all good. I was just pointing out that the apostrophe and additional s, aren't needed. "my toaster stopped working", would be grammatically better. I thought the joke was clever.

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Trick, I recommed trying High-Logic MainType. You'll find more info and trial at http://www.high-logic.com/maintype.html .
It should run OK on 64-bit Vista.

MainType is 49 USD but is currently up at a 50% discount on the discounts still availabe list over at: http://www.donationcoder.com/.
You need to become a donating member in order to get the discount (but any donation will do).

MainType has been up at: http://www.bitsdujour.com at a 60 % discount and it seems it will be again on 16 June 08: http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/maintype/.

Trial MainType, add your mail addy to: http://www.bitsdujour.com/software/maintype/notify/ and you should be able to get MainType at a bargain price just a couple of days before the trial period ends.

BTW, I'm in no way affiliated with Hig-Logic, but I've tried all font managers for Windows, bought a few, and have fond myself using MainType only.

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This may be considered bad grammar in the States — I wouldn’t know — but it’s fine over here!

It's perfectly acceptable in the States too. There's a difference in meaning (verb aspect, in this case) between the "preterite" (completed action) and the "present perfect" (something occurring in past that continues or relates to present) that works mostly the same, so far as I know, in both American and British standards of English. In this case, the latter verb form is useful to imply that the toaster still does not work.

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Been using Maintype's trial for about a week now and not to bad. Think I will pick it up.

Thanks for the suggestion Arnold.

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