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Now is for real. No more 'friendlies' where points are not at stake and may bore the audience. What do you think or bet will survive and get to the finals?

Feel free to add your bet or hopes. Just add a related or unrelated font if you will.
As I write this it is 4 hours and 12 minutes to the kick off...

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I know soccer/football is thrilling to a lot of folks, but I'm not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

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Helvetica : Swiss - Akzidenz-Grotesk : Germany - Peignot : France. Elzevir : Dutch.
I think is fun :-)

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I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

Me neither, but the same goes for top 10 albums and other music – two of the most popular recent threads, by the way. Oh well!

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>I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

>Me neither, but the same goes for top 10 albums and other music

Surely the link between music and typography is Apple? Apple invented both digital typography and digital music.

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So far the only things I've really paid attention to has been type treatment in shirts (font/gemena/capitals) and team logos (the Swiss team had a new one). My husband commented on the extended use of gemena from names in shirts to MacDonalds' "i'm loving it" on the sideboard ads.

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"I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography."

Maybe it is that people get a big kick out of both of them or just that they are having a ball while talking type? Either way, it's hands off for the non-footballers here and a heads-up to those willing to toe the line :-)

ChrisL

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Well, mixing football / soccer to typography is easy. I just received my idle player 36"x44" poster to glue on the wall :-)

Christian Dez Piero

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André,
LOL!!! That is fabulous! My kids will get a big kick out of it!

ChrisL

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I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

The great ideal of dutch football has always been to play effective but not without playing beautiful as well.

Tonight they beat the current world champion Italy 3:0.
They could make it to the final (against Germany maybe?).

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... The only football shirt I own is a dutch one:

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ORANJE!

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In a final between Germany and Holland, there is no question where my loyalties fall. But watching that game against Italy last night, all I have to say is… damn! God, I hope those Italians get sent home as soon as possible. As for the Dutch football style, if those long passes weren't beautiful, I don't know what is. Good job, Oranje.

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the Italy numbers are kinda cool, typographically

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Yes. Due to painful Nistelrooy's effect. But it also could have been that "Christian Dez Piero" was playing as midfielder...

But wait, there are still more games in this death - group

Chris, I am glad you like the poster. After printed, you have to autograph it :-)

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"the Italy numbers are kinda cool, typographically" - Were they made with Fontstruct?

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"After printed, you have to autograph it :-)"

Be happy to! I guess it would be our secret that I am probably the worst soccer player ever on the face of the earth :-)

ChrisL

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Type and football/soccer; two links to see and read more:
Éric de Berranger's LFP : http://ericdeberranger.free.fr/pages/present/lfp.html
and a linotype article on football shirts : http://www.linotype.com/2710/footbaljerseyfonts.html

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Carefull. One leg of Dez Piero is worth 5 millllin bucks, ensured :-)

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With my very bad knees and poor mobility (and at age 64), I don't think my legs are worth 5 cents let alone $5million :-)
I still hobble around on the tennis court, though. My strokes are still pretty good--if only I could get to the ball!

ChrisL

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OK. Every team played once now. Best performance so far: Spain!!!
An absolute joy to watch.

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I'm cheering for Sweden.

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I'm rooting for the teams who play beautiful soccer, but never win. That would be: Portugal & Netherlands

Living in Little Portugal here in Santa Clara, CA (technically little azores) I fully expect a parade on triumph. That in addition to the normally scheduled monthly parade for Saint Salguém de Algures.

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My house is cheering for Portugal too.

Randy, I didn't know you were in Santa Clara!

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I was picking Greece to repeat (I was in Greece for Euro 2004) - sadly it's not looking so good for them this time around.

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This year is for us...eh eh
Força Portugal!

António

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Cristiano will be crying for the right reason.

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sii

"Cristiano will be crying for the right reason."

...of joy? ;-)

António

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I'd love to see a Type Design Euro 2008 where representative typefaces from each of the 16 countries battle each other. But due to my lack of knowledge, I'm afraid I can't name a single type design from Romania, Croatia, Turkey, Austria, and Poland...

It would be interesting to compare type design and footballing prowesses of the Euro 2008 participants. Type-wise, my hunch would be that the Netherlands become strong favourites.

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El Niño y Villa

Spain 4 - 0 Russia had a lot of gols, Oléeee! It is going to be exciting to find out if Spain will make it better this time around. For forty something years they have been under achieving on big competitions...

I highlight the awesome performance of Ibrahimović who scored a BIG one against Greece.
I guess that in every café bar in Portugal people were delighted when that ball got in ;-). I say that because the last Euro final, the Greeks took it...

I couldn't find a better picture of Ibrahimović, but this one is fun ;;-)

I am hoping Portugal and Greece met again on a rematch...

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I am hoping Portugal and Greece met again on a rematch...

No chance. Greece won’t survive the first round.

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Yes Jan, I know. Anyway, I and my propensity to impossible ideas ... :-)

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Except for all the Greeks you are probably the only person in the world who wants to see Greece play another game ;-)
It was horrible.

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> Apple invented both digital typography and digital music.

Whaaaa? I would think that Compugraphic or one of its generation invented digital typography. And I really think that digital music existed before the Ipod.

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I thought the Greek coach would eat his bench, with olive oil.

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Spain 4 - 0 Russia had a lot of gols, Oléeee!

You mean Spain 4 - 1 Russia. So that's even more goals. Spain were mighty impressive, but one does feel bad about Russia having to play without Arshavin (suspended for first two matches) and Pogrebnyak (out injured), two of their best players who guided Zenit St. Petersburg to the UEFA Cup title.

Russia have struggled internationally since the former Soviet teams all went their separate ways (with a few exceptions like Lev Yashin, most former Soviet stars were non-Russian), but I thought that for once they had a genuine pool of talent. I guess the only Cyrillic users among the Euro 2008 participants are too young and inexperienced. With Greece struggling as well, it's back to Latin-alphabet dominance in the European Championships.

Pop quiz: when were the two times that a non-Latin-alphabet-using team won the European Championships?

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>I am hoping Portugal and Greece met again on a rematch...

Revenge is a dish best served cold... with olive oil, feta and glass of Mythos beer.

>Pop quiz: when were the two times that a non-Latin-alphabet-using team won the European Championships?

Well, one was the Greeks last time. The other...

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>Pop quiz: when were the two times that a non-Latin-alphabet-using team won the European Championships?

Well, one was the Greeks last time. The other...

... was the Soviet Union 1960.

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I would like to see Spain vs Germany on the final but I'm also keen to see matches between Portugal and Italy and Netherlands and Spain.

!Vamos Furia Roja!

Héctor

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Sii and Jan are of course right... USSR in 1960, Greece in 2004. In 2004, I actually watched Greece defeat France in the semis at a Greek restaurant in Berlin, dining on fabulous Greek food. Boy were the Greeks celebrating.

Revenge is a dish best served cold... with olive oil, feta and glass of Mythos beer.

Hmm... I'm suddenly getting really hungry.

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Euro 2004 of course coincided with the ICTVC conference in Thessaloniki. Watched the France match in the hotel and then hit the streets with the rest of the city. Was on Santorini for the final, which was fun too, but a little more low-key.

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The first host is out: Switzerland.
I’m afraid the same is going to happen to the other one tomorrow: Austria.

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Can't really talk about football without talking about Brasil :P

Here's our new uniform.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8900/20082010brasilhometg9.png

And this is my local team and it's 2008 uniform:
http://www.gremio.net/shop/product_detail.aspx?language=0&category_id=16...

And this is the AVALANCHE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKnujGgUMco

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eh...eh...
The first part is done...We are in the quarter-finals!!!!

António

PS- We dont want revenge...we just love football!!!!

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Da Man
I Phil more relaxed now. I can imagine the parade maybe still going on. That is good though, can rest important players for the next big one. I say watch Turkey next match.
I guess some people will be missed at their jobs, tomorrow.

Switzerland is out. Turkey would take even on Germany on a do or die match too...

" The first part is done...We are in the quarter-finals!!!! "

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Loads of Turkish people driving around playing air-horns at the moment, which is fair enough, but would quite like to get to sleep at some point.

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Dan - "watching that game against Italy last night, all I have to say is… damn! God, I hope those Italians get sent home as soon as possible"

You know what, Italy has lost one game on the first round in many tournaments and always made it to the next level.. you never know, maybe the Ball Gods are roman deities...

" The first host is out: Switzerland "
I thought that too, but hey, still can make it. I never thought Germany would go down against Croacia. Was Croacia who took on Germany in 98?

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Giuoco Calcio

I collected some info on Italy. I could not find stuff in english...
You will find also some calcio science à la catenaccio.

The best find is an italian newspaper cover at the bottom, along some "free" soccer. :-)

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Squadra Azzurra
http://www.figc.it/

Giuoco Calcio
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federazione_Italiana_Gioco_Calcio

Catenaccio
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

Schema (calcio)
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema_%28calcio%29

Modulo (calcio)
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulo_%28calcio%29

Calcio Gratis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFYX0zjMXKw&feature=related

1968 Cover La Gazzetta dello Sport. Or browse for more options
http://www.euro2008.uefa.com/history/index.html

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there is not much things in this world i hate as much as football. being a resident of istanbul, it is almost a torture.

dr

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Was it Croacia who took on Germany in 98?

In 1996 Germany beat the Czechs 2:1 in the final (Euro Cup).

1998 was the World Cup.

We sucked against Croatia.
And Austria isn’t out. Good for us.