I know soccer/football is thrilling to a lot of folks, but I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

Helvetica : Swiss - Akzidenz-Grotesk : Germany - Peignot : France. Elzevir : Dutch.
I think is fun :-)

I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

Me neither, but the same goes for top 10 albums and other music – two of the most popular recent threads, by the way. Oh well!

>I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

>Me neither, but the same goes for top 10 albums and other music

Surely the link between music and typography is Apple? Apple invented both digital typography and digital music.

So far the only things I’ve really paid attention to has been type treatment in shirts (font/gemena/capitals) and team logos (the Swiss team had a new one). My husband commented on the extended use of gemena from names in shirts to MacDonalds’ “i’m loving it” on the sideboard ads.

“I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.”

Maybe it is that people get a big kick out of both of them or just that they are having a ball while talking type? Either way, it’s hands off for the non-footballers here and a heads-up to those willing to toe the line :-)

ChrisL

Well, mixing football / soccer to typography is easy. I just received my idle player 36”x44” poster to glue on the wall :-)

Christian Dez Piero

André,
LOL!!! That is fabulous! My kids will get a big kick out of it!

ChrisL

I’m not sure I understand how this relates to typography.

The great ideal of dutch football has always been to play effective but not without playing beautiful as well.

Tonight they beat the current world champion Italy 3:0.
They could make it to the final (against Germany maybe?).

... The only football shirt I own is a dutch one:

ORANJE!

In a final between Germany and Holland, there is no question where my loyalties fall. But watching that game against Italy last night, all I have to say is… damn! God, I hope those Italians get sent home as soon as possible. As for the Dutch football style, if those long passes weren’t beautiful, I don’t know what is. Good job, Oranje.

the Italy numbers are kinda cool, typographically

Yes. Due to painful Nistelrooy’s effect. But it also could have been that “Christian Dez Piero” was playing as midfielder...

But wait, there are still more games in this death - group

Chris, I am glad you like the poster. After printed, you have to autograph it :-)

“the Italy numbers are kinda cool, typographically” - Were they made with Fontstruct?

“After printed, you have to autograph it :-)”

Be happy to! I guess it would be our secret that I am probably the worst soccer player ever on the face of the earth :-)

ChrisL

Type and football/soccer; two links to see and read more:
Éric de Berranger’s LFP : http://ericdeberranger.free.fr/pages/present/lfp.html
and a linotype article on football shirts : http://www.linotype.com/2710/footbaljerseyfonts.html

Carefull. One leg of Dez Piero is worth 5 millllin bucks, ensured :-)

With my very bad knees and poor mobility (and at age 64), I don’t think my legs are worth 5 cents let alone $5million :-)
I still hobble around on the tennis court, though. My strokes are still pretty good—if only I could get to the ball!

ChrisL

OK. Every team played once now. Best performance so far: Spain!!!
An absolute joy to watch.

I’m cheering for Sweden.

I’m rooting for the teams who play beautiful soccer, but never win. That would be: Portugal & Netherlands

Living in Little Portugal here in Santa Clara, CA (technically little azores) I fully expect a parade on triumph. That in addition to the normally scheduled monthly parade for Saint Salguém de Algures.

My house is cheering for Portugal too.

Randy, I didn’t know you were in Santa Clara!

I was picking Greece to repeat (I was in Greece for Euro 2004) - sadly it’s not looking so good for them this time around.

This year is for us...eh eh
Força Portugal!

António

Cristiano will be crying for the right reason.

sii

“Cristiano will be crying for the right reason.”

...of joy? ;-)

António

I’d love to see a Type Design Euro 2008 where representative typefaces from each of the 16 countries battle each other. But due to my lack of knowledge, I’m afraid I can’t name a single type design from Romania, Croatia, Turkey, Austria, and Poland...

It would be interesting to compare type design and footballing prowesses of the Euro 2008 participants. Type-wise, my hunch would be that the Netherlands become strong favourites.

El Niño y Villa

Spain 4 - 0 Russia had a lot of gols, Oléeee! It is going to be exciting to find out if Spain will make it better this time around. For forty something years they have been under achieving on big competitions...

I highlight the awesome performance of Ibrahimović who scored a BIG one against Greece.
I guess that in every café bar in Portugal people were delighted when that ball got in ;-). I say that because the last Euro final, the Greeks took it...

I couldn’t find a better picture of Ibrahimović, but this one is fun ;;-)

I am hoping Portugal and Greece met again on a rematch...

I am hoping Portugal and Greece met again on a rematch...

No chance. Greece won’t survive the first round.

Yes Jan, I know. Anyway, I and my propensity to impossible ideas ... :-)

Except for all the Greeks you are probably the only person in the world who wants to see Greece play another game ;-)
It was horrible.

> Apple invented both digital typography and digital music.

Whaaaa? I would think that Compugraphic or one of its generation invented digital typography. And I really think that digital music existed before the Ipod.

I thought the Greek coach would eat his bench, with olive oil.

Spain 4 - 0 Russia had a lot of gols, Oléeee!

You mean Spain 4 - 1 Russia. So that’s even more goals. Spain were mighty impressive, but one does feel bad about Russia having to play without Arshavin (suspended for first two matches) and Pogrebnyak (out injured), two of their best players who guided Zenit St. Petersburg to the UEFA Cup title.

Russia have struggled internationally since the former Soviet teams all went their separate ways (with a few exceptions like Lev Yashin, most former Soviet stars were non-Russian), but I thought that for once they had a genuine pool of talent. I guess the only Cyrillic users among the Euro 2008 participants are too young and inexperienced. With Greece struggling as well, it’s back to Latin-alphabet dominance in the European Championships.

Pop quiz: when were the two times that a non-Latin-alphabet-using team won the European Championships?

>I am hoping Portugal and Greece met again on a rematch...

Revenge is a dish best served cold... with olive oil, feta and glass of Mythos beer.

>Pop quiz: when were the two times that a non-Latin-alphabet-using team won the European Championships?

Well, one was the Greeks last time. The other...

>Pop quiz: when were the two times that a non-Latin-alphabet-using team won the European Championships?

Well, one was the Greeks last time. The other...

... was the Soviet Union 1960.

I would like to see Spain vs Germany on the final but I’m also keen to see matches between Portugal and Italy and Netherlands and Spain.

!Vamos Furia Roja!

Héctor

Sii and Jan are of course right... USSR in 1960, Greece in 2004. In 2004, I actually watched Greece defeat France in the semis at a Greek restaurant in Berlin, dining on fabulous Greek food. Boy were the Greeks celebrating.

Revenge is a dish best served cold... with olive oil, feta and glass of Mythos beer.

Hmm... I’m suddenly getting really hungry.

Euro 2004 of course coincided with the ICTVC conference in Thessaloniki. Watched the France match in the hotel and then hit the streets with the rest of the city. Was on Santorini for the final, which was fun too, but a little more low-key.

The first host is out: Switzerland.
I’m afraid the same is going to happen to the other one tomorrow: Austria.

Bruno will be crying in his pint tonight...

http://www.daltonmaag.com/browse2/custom/clients/puma?lang=de&offset=3

Can’t really talk about football without talking about Brasil :P

Here’s our new uniform.
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8900/20082010brasilhometg9.png

And this is my local team and it’s 2008 uniform:
http://www.gremio.net/shop/product_detail.aspx?language=0&category_id=16...

And this is the AVALANCHE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKnujGgUMco

eh...eh...
The first part is done...We are in the quarter-finals!!!!

António

PS- We dont want revenge...we just love football!!!!

Da Man
I Phil more relaxed now. I can imagine the parade maybe still going on. That is good though, can rest important players for the next big one. I say watch Turkey next match.
I guess some people will be missed at their jobs, tomorrow.

Switzerland is out. Turkey would take even on Germany on a do or die match too...

” The first part is done...We are in the quarter-finals!!!! “

Loads of Turkish people driving around playing air-horns at the moment, which is fair enough, but would quite like to get to sleep at some point.

Dan - “watching that game against Italy last night, all I have to say is… damn! God, I hope those Italians get sent home as soon as possible”

You know what, Italy has lost one game on the first round in many tournaments and always made it to the next level.. you never know, maybe the Ball Gods are roman deities...

” The first host is out: Switzerland “
I thought that too, but hey, still can make it. I never thought Germany would go down against Croacia. Was Croacia who took on Germany in 98?

Giuoco Calcio

I collected some info on Italy. I could not find stuff in english...
You will find also some calcio science à la catenaccio.

The best find is an italian newspaper cover at the bottom, along some “free” soccer. :-)

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Squadra Azzurra
http://www.figc.it/

Giuoco Calcio
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federazione_Italiana_Gioco_Calcio

Catenaccio
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catenaccio

Schema (calcio)
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema_%28calcio%29

Modulo (calcio)
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulo_%28calcio%29

Calcio Gratis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFYX0zjMXKw&feature=related

1968 Cover La Gazzetta dello Sport. Or browse for more options
http://www.euro2008.uefa.com/history/index.html

there is not much things in this world i hate as much as football. being a resident of istanbul, it is almost a torture.

dr

Was it Croacia who took on Germany in 98?

In 1996 Germany beat the Czechs 2:1 in the final (Euro Cup).

1998 was the World Cup.

We sucked against Croatia.
And Austria isn’t out. Good for us.

What an eventful night.

Jon Bon Jovi delayed his Amsterdam concert until the game had ended. Minutes after the final whistle he came up and started with an inpromptu “Rocking all over the world” — wearing the national shirt!

(The rest of the concert was awesome as well, an entertaining and surprising mix of golden hits and some of his latest, including an extra long version of “Keep the faith”. A Very Good Evening. My sympathy goes out to my poor brother Henk, who supplied the tickets but had to forego ’cause he had a nasty accident, involving a few beers, a bike, a lamp post, and his face, in that order...)

” there is not much things in this world i hate as much as football. being a resident of istanbul, it is almost a torture. “

Yes David, totally understandable. Having a champs league matchs on a Wednesday in Istambul must be not fun ; I wonder how that people move around and all that goes with it.
Watch Turkey upcoming match, this is it, do or bye bye :-) I did collect some info on Turkish Football among other things.

Istambul demographics

http://www.arch.columbia.edu/Studio/Spring2002/UP/Istanbul/istanbul/ista...

List of museums and monuments in Istanbul
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_museums_and_monuments_in_Istanbul

Galatasaray Lisesi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatasaray_Lisesi
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turkish soccer
http://www.angelfire.com/nj/sivritepe/5758/tl.html

Istambul monuments
http://www.about-turkey.com/tourism/monument.htm

Turkey National Team
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_national_football_team
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Sweeden
http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/countries/cities/city=1851/news/newsid=71652...
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” 1998 was the World Cup. ” That is right. I see it as a international match. Was a blow up, in 98 and 08 (it makes a *10). Enjoy :-)

Dutch legions paint Berne orange
http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/countries/cities/city=1226/fanzones/newsid=7...
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For those that like tha browse this is the daily report, check out:

Tournament Browser
Check out todays matchs
http://en.euro2008.uefa.com/tournament/
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” Jon Bon Jovi delayed his Amsterdam concert until the game had ended. “

Sure! People were watching it too :-)

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Comparison : Soccer v Football : Results

As favorably inclined as he was towards all things British, Argentine writer Jorge Luis Borges was not a fan of football. He is supposed to have said, “El fútbol es popular porque la estupidez es popular.” In translation, “Football is popular because stupidity is popular.”

I happen to love football, but I do see that football is often used as an excuse for displays of frightening stupidity. Istanbul in recent memory has been the setting of a particularly tragic incident, the stabbing deaths of two English fans who had come for a UEFA Cup match. So I see how David can feel that way about football.

By the way, I don’t get the point of that Google search result comparison. Soccer is only used for association football, but football is used for several different variations including the rugby codes, American football, Aussie rules, and Gaelic football, so it will get a lot of non-association-football hits. Also, contrary to popular belief, ’soccer’ is not a uniquely North American term; it is also used by Australians, New Zealanders, and many Anglophone Africans.

I was thinking that today I would place some info about Guus Hiddink, for the excellent job he did with many national teams. I am a fan, specially international sports, being soccer / football (or vise-versa) one my favorites. That is why I started this thing. Mixing or relating typography to football or soccer is that easy. I do see it, and if it is just me, that is even more interesting :-)
I started to collect some links at some point cause I just wanted this to go on without incidents, and the results are random search results that have or may not have a relationship with the main topic, Type & Football / Soccer (or vise-versa). I will go ahead and speculate: Football is News, News is Interest which lead us to text and imaginery that will some how be imprinted to a surface being it paper or computer screen, or whatever it will be in 110 years (lasers ? ).
And that is all there is to it. It is really fun, come on ? Is it not ?

As for Jorge Luis Borges: Once a friend of mine told me while we were on a touristic incursion in the Costa Brava; he said “Borges used to write like a englishman”. My friend is Argentine. So my replay to him was “Borges writes like Borges - boludo...”. I suppose he (Borges) said that because of this, and if it is not a starting point to answer the question as if to be or not in a 50 thousand people crowed may result in physical damages or bumps, it will certainly end up with more questions.

The thing with Soccer v Football search result comes from exactly it: Soccer is Football and Football is Soccer. I am sorry I can not be more vague about it. Thank God I did not mixed Soccer and Football (or vice-versa) on this fashion.

Now, to cool down, the real fans
http://www.euro2008.uefa.com/photos/

Now the picture is taking form. It will be one of these teams to move up to the next level:
Sweden or Russia?
Romania, France or italy?
That will make to the next quarter-finals. It could be Italy, as they are always helped by the Ball Gods. We will see.
I don’t like the idea that Germany - Portugal comes this soon in the competition, but hey, whatever. This could benefit other teams, and, maybe, just maybe we could have a unexpected champion: Romania, Spain or Turkey...

The match just ended 5 minutes ago...
The Gods Have Spoken

For your delight or scream.

i like that font

anyone know what the dutch font is?

I love the header in this cover.
Tomorrow the expected of all matches. Germany v Portugal. What do you think is going to happen ? Good Luck in advance.

I think that Germany will beat Portugal, just like they did two years ago. Germany may not be playing well… but I’d say they’ve been better than Italy in this tournament.

I’m not very optimistic. Of course I hope our boys make it but if they play like in the last two matches they won’t beat Portugal.

Russia played really well tonight.
I’m looking forward to seeing them against Oranje.

BTW - what does “Podolski, sì alla Juve” mean?
Any Italians around? Podolski scored three times for Germany so far.

@ jan
Juventus is interested in him.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJVOxdJ-8A28Hx5zD0KWdsgNpRdQ

Dan Reynolds

Yes you win last time, but I remenber the 3-0 that we gave Germany in euro 2000 :-)
So...that the best win!

António Fonseca

Well, no matter what happens tonight, I’m sure that the best team with win.

If Germany doesn’t make it past its game tonight, then I’m for Holland. Their ball magic will roll over the Italians (again) any day. And the Portuguese, too, I suspect.

@ clintonite ” anyone know what the dutch font is? “.
I was told that most of these fonts or similar ones are found on Dha Phont.

I think Germany did not played well in two matches. Their first match was very good. Anyway, having a very good first round does not mean that you are going to make it to the end... Italy seems to play bad at start, as I have seen before, and make it to the final...
I like to point that Croacia, Turkey and Russia are the ones to be looking at. Another very interesting match will be Netherlands - Russia; Guus Hiddink is excellent and has proven to be a super coach and the russians are playing a good ball.

Here, a better picture of the coming matches:

Ai meu Santo António . . .

Oh my Saint Anthony . . .
http://cyberteca.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/santo-antonio-de-lisboa-festas...
Sorry the link is in Portuguese. But you could well be there and drink a glass of red with sardines on the grill ;-)

Yes. We did it again. Goodbye Portugal. Time to sing the Fado. Sorry António.

Moving on ;-)
Today’s big One, Croacia - Turkey. Some info on their last match:
http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_world_0_17/06/2008_97724

Oy Vay,

I actually watched the turkey-croatia match yesterday on a hd projector at some friends house, in istanbul. the house was filled with 9 guests, 8 of them turkish (the 9th one being me). and though I really dont like football, I have to admit that it was unbelievable. And the way back home was also interesting.

I can’t imagine how its gonna be if they win again on wednesday.

dr

I can’t imagine how its gonna be if they win again on wednesday.

They won’t ;-)

Well, the thing is, it does not matter that you score lots of goals or the players worth 49.95 or 3 millllons. Sometimes the result is up to the Ball Gods.

Turkey is in for the next big one. Against all odds: 119th minute comes immediately before 120th minute.
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=107814

I will look at Russia - Netherlands with lots of interest.

Well, the thing is, it does not matter that you score lots of goals ...

Well, actually the thing is, if you don’t score as much as the other team, you lose.

Goals so far in the tournament:
Turkey: 6
Germany: 7

I think the Ball Gods had so much work supporting Turkey that they might be exhausted.

Oh yes lots of goals. That one goal so far won the game! Ballack 13. The other guys know how to suffer the game all the way to penalties, up to the gods. They have got 2 keepers. It is going to take a lot of water! Germany has more rest then Turkey, that is a disadvantage. The way I see it, anything could happen, but all points to the favorite.
I am expecting a great match today. Is Russia going to do one of theirs? I am sure the Orange will provide. Enjoy!

http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/20/the-dutch-dilemma-sport-or-utli...

I found something interesting, I did not know about this: You can follow the match via flash(?) todays Spain - Italia.
En Español. http://www.marca.com/marcador/futbol/2008/eurocopa/cuartos/spa_ita/
En English via the official website. Yesterday I could net see the big one on tv - npse did not showed the match.. . I could not believe that, but hey, that is it :-)

I found something interesting, I did not know about this: You can follow the match via flash(?) todays Spain - Italia.
En Español. http://www.marca.com/marcador/futbol/2008/eurocopa/cuartos/spa_ita/
En English via the official website. Yesterday I could net see the big one on tv - npse did not showed the match.. . I could not believe that, but hey, that is it :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_national_football_team

After a interval since the last big one, here goes a calling for your bets.
I have found DW-World which has news in many languages. I tried to pull another nice cover but I was unable to get one. If you do know where to find one, feel free to place it here.

http://www.germnews.de/dn/

As if we all know already who is going to move to the final, it still is uncertain: You never know what is going to happen. Sometimes things just happen by chance, and this game is full of it. if you are german I know exactly where your cheering is going, but, again, I would say that this is up to the gods.

Enjoy and don’t forget the BIG mug of beer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_beer

Cheers :-)

*This a real smile

As expected.

” Triumph der deutschen Effizienz “

http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/0,1518,562128,00.html

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By the end of the day we will know the other finalist

Spain - Russia, or Luis Aragonés - Guus Hiddink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Aragones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guus_Hiddink

Todays Marca cover:

The gods were with us this time.
So, at least my bet that Germany would make it to the final was correct.

I am proud to announce that in my quarter of Munich the relations between the Turkish and the German communities must be excellent. So - contrary to my worst nightmare - both teams were regarded as “ours”, and after the game Germans comforted their Turkish neighbours, whereas the Turkish fans rejoiced: “We made the finals.”

” So, at least my bet that Germany would make it to the final was correct. “
Indeed sire, you know you game. By the way, sorry that the Orange didn’t
make it ;-)

Yes, I sincerely didn’t know what to think; the turkish players didn’t want to
give it up. They were down few key player with injuries.
Germany played well, not playing well. As is characteristic of the germans, they controlled somewhat the game and not taking risks. Again, as expected.

That soccer, footbal, fussball, fútbol &c. is a game of violentia I totally desagree.
It in the end creates a atmosphere that embraces everyone envolved —but that goes for international competitions only, where the players make little money and without clubes pulling the strings.

I will go on and come back up with a nice ending report of the final.

Cheers!

Predicting Germany to be one of the finalists was easy. I just remembered what English football legend Gary Linneker once said:

“Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win.”
– Gary Lineker –

But – it’s gonna be a tough one against Spain, for sure.

“Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win.”
– Gary Lineker –

Edit:
“Football is a complicated game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win.” - on European championships :-)

or

The Germans are the bogeyman of the pitch.

Hehe… I always heard, alle dürfen mitspielen, aber am Ende gewinnen die Deutschen.

Everyone is allowed to play, but the Germans win at the end.

The Final (in alphabetic order)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany_national_football_team
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_Low

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_National_Football_Team
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Aragones

Todays related news:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,k-7348,00.html

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My squad on a 4x4x2 on defensive formation. On attack formation it is a 2x4x4:

Todays spanish cover (I was unable to find a german soccer paper with a cover)

ENJOY!

Spain deserves it. They played the most beautiful football. They were great throughout the whole tournament. I had a hard time deciding whom to support.
I may be born in Germany, but I’m made in Spain ;-)

España, campeona de Europa!!
:)

Congrats to Spain! But the people in your embassy must be very boring—when the Italians win big trophies their embassy staffers get drunk and drive around the neighborhood honking and shouting for hours!

Spain not just deserves it, I never seen a match so well executed. Hey, I took 44 years to get it again.
I am happy for them. Many people will be missed at work today :-)

España Campeón de Europa 2008

Felicidades, enhorabuena.

Héctor

i’m not even sure what the question is. what’s with the century gothic link ?