Newspaper fonts?

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J. Roden's picture
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Is there a website somewhere that lists all the fonts used for a particular newspapers, such as the Dallas Morning News, Houston Chronicle, etc, etc, and categorizes the use of the fonts, such as “Headline — font1, font2”, “Body — font3, font4”. Just getting into this. I’m a font lover, so your help is appreciated!!

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Well, http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/ provides PDFs of hundreds of papers (somewhat different mix each day), and you can go into “Document_Properties/Fonts…” in Acrobat and see!

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Dmitry, what do you mean by a context menu? When I select some text and then right click on it, I just get commenting options, nothing about what the font name is.

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Dmitry, what do you mean by a context menu? When I select some text and then right click on it, I just get commenting options, nothing about what the font name is.

This nearly got me too: You need to use the TouchUp Text tool, which can be found on the Advanced Editing toolbar, to select some text. Then you’ll find a “Properties” option in the context menu.

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Oh, one more thing: This will only work, if the permissions in the PDF permit it. If they don’t, the whole Advanced Editing toolbar is greyed out.

Oddly, yesterday’s editions of the world’s press up at newseum.org were mostly unprotected, while those from the day before were nearly all protected.

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surely the adobe font police officer will know an answer to the EULA question …

Thomas W Phinney's picture
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EULAs can say whatever the font vendor wants them to. So sure, there are *some* EULAs that don’t allow embedding at all (though these seem to be a real minority). There are more that don’t allow embedding for “commercial” use, where the PDF itself is sold — see the Agfa Monotype EULA for an example of that, and their definition of commercial use.

Cheers,

T

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Good idea, mate. Thanks!

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Wow… that is a great link Hrant!

Even though I can

J. Roden's picture
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The only problem is that it only gives you a LIST of fonts in the document. You really have no idea which one is which, and where each is used, unless you’re keen enough to know.

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Also, are these pdf files created from the ACTUAL layout program the editor uses? I wonder how they get these pdf files from the newspapers, if so. Hmmm…

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just select some text and choose properties
from a context menu.. its for adobe acrobat
(not reader)..

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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> I wonder how they get these pdf files from the newspapers

I’m sure the newspapers submit the PDFs themselves.
Hmmm, now I’m wondering: are they violating some EULAs?

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The papers are submitted by themselves, before 8AM everymorning. If the paper does not get to newseum, they are not listed. (as you can see). It does not violate EULAs/copywrite laws because they are only exhibited as the front page for one day. (However they do keep them on file for historical purposes, two days online, but not linked)

This is second-hand knowledge from speaking with Newseum’s director at a SPJ meeting.

EDIT reEULA: Most are “secured pdfs,” which in most cases prevents printing, editing, font extraction… etc. Not all are protected however. and Hrant’s question is one I do not know the answer to… I hate legal wording :-)

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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EULA violation: I was talking about the font embedding.

hhp