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I'm looking for some general (or specific) comments/crit on this logo design. Fire away!

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Looks too generic and quite forgettable to me. Also kind of close to Brother, Berthier or Pingdom logos depending which industry you are closer to.

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Thanks for the comment and the examples epsilicon. The company is not in an industry close to those examples you gave, aside from the fact that it will have a web presence. I have some more sketches I'll mock-up and post soon. Any suggestions for what would make the logo more unique and or memorable? color? style? Or were you thinking more - scrap it and head in a whole new direction?

-j

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what does the organisation actually do? as has been stated it's pretty generic.

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The org is a web-based non-profit that support artists.

I liked the round shapes of the version I have. It feels friendly and young. The site has a lot of young artists on it so it needs to feel: welcoming, young, friendly, and possibly something else that gives it an edge.

Here is another attempt:
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I'm new here and just figured out how to do inline graphic posts so here are the two versions I've uploaded so far in addition to some extras. Again thanks for your input and crit.




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The fourth one really doesnt do it for me.
2nd one would seem to be the best, but it still isn't too memorable.

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#4 in this latest round is perhaps the closest in encapsulating the concept of "pebble" in form - but how does this tie into supporting artists? Your designs seem to be lacking concept - what's the key idea that you want to communicate? Why does the org call themselves "pebble"? Put more conceptual thinking behind the design. As others have stated previously, these designs seem pretty generic.

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Pebble helps artists through lots of tiny donations. So a lot of tiny things are adding up to help a larger need for each artist. I agree that the logo looks generic, but what might give it an edge that makes it memorable. I think #5 is my favorite so far for the obvious reason that lots of tiny things are adding up to accomplish a larger goal. I just thought of another idea I could try out. Thanks for the help!

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I dunno. I reckon it should be less structured if you're going to go that angle ... like a colour blindness test

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Brilliant! After reading all the comments I was headed in a direction like that with more structure. Thanks so much Paul for putting that piece in. I'll have another go at it tonight.

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pebbles like artists come in all different shapes and sizes eh ;)

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Still working on this - but I think it's headed somewhere.

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That's certainly a step forward. It does remind me of - a http://color blindness test, the Antiparticle logo and Aliance for Arts logo.

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and it's WAY too detailed.

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Plus they look like bubbles not pebbles. See if you can make the p with no more than 30 irregular shapes. What I would do is print a fine outline of the p in a faint colour and draw the pebble fill-in by hand.

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Waaaaaay too many of them. Simplify simplify simplify... And what about the negative shape that's forming? Should it resemble to anything? If not, simplify it as well.
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The last updated logo is sort of complex. Make it simple. If you scale down to an appropriate size, some of dots would be lost, which is bad for a logo design.

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litera's comment got me thinking - how about getting rid of yellow dots altogether and building P out of the inner negative space ?

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Thanks for all the comments on the last one. Here is another phase of the logos with some of your advice. I feel like I've hit a bit of a road block with this thing. But I know that I'm close to getting something that is meaningful and memorable. Please keep giving me input as I plan to work even harder on it this upcoming week.

Thanks
Jason

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A few more takes on the two I just posted (I'm not married to the color, just keeping it the same for prototyping):

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your type is gonna need some work me thinks

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I reckon this is progressing quite nicely, but how about trying to use some more random, pebble-like shapes?

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The idea has potential. It reminds me more of bubbles though. Agree with the post above - introduce some variations in the shapes.

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Perhaps consider not having a negative space at all, but use _shapes_or_sizes_ of the pebbles to spell out P instead ?