Oy Lord of da friggin' Rings! I was being serious!
No really, I mean it: does anybody here use typographical conventions in their handwriting? (I know: ligatures actually stem from handwriting, but you know what I mean.)
Yes as a matter of fact I just noticed this yesterday when I was filling in a form by hand. To my surprise I used Small Caps. I guess I did it so people could actually read it. My lowercase handwriting seems to be a bit messy.
Yes, all three. OSF and ligs (proper joining really, as in Caflisch OT) all the time. But lining figures for phone numbers. Caps with Small caps mainly for subheadings.
Never smallcaps, always lining figures (proportional, duh :-), but heavily ligated (so generally illegible). And this last bit is related to the central question:
Exactly who reads your handwriting, and how much of it?
acutally i think i have two modes of handwriting - my own bastard script that i use most of the time and my own formal hand that i use when i actually want people to read it. but mostly i think my scribbling are meant only for me, so it becomes a real scrawl, no fine typographic features to speak of.
If I use caps in a row at all, they tend to be outsized, as it's usually me writing a note to myself that I need to catch later. Numerals are neither lining nor traditional OSF but somewhere in between, always proportional. And the only ligature I tend to use is the "ing" below:
I've written in small caps since I was but a young lad (much to the dismay of my teachers).
As a consequence, I never really perfected the art of fine cursive writing (sure, I know how to do it, but practice is another matter). And ligatures never come into the picture--when I actually write in lowercase, the result can only be described as an attempt at cursive with absolutely no connections between the letters.
I like the signature sample and panagram idea, but it could get a bit cumbersome couldn't it?
it could get a bit cumbersome couldn't it? i guess so, and i dunno if that'd go over too well with the webmasters.
concerning cursive: i can write Russian in a very nice cursive, better than i can write block letters, but for English it's the other way around, i can't write in English in cursive without a lot of hesitation, which defeats the purpose of writing in cursive in the first place.
Also, you might say that the "ing" ligature is actually a "ting" ligature where the t bar takes off the i dot, but then I'm really spotty with i dots to begin with. But that "ing" shows up almost all the time in my handwriting.
My handwriting communicates to others about as well as my grunting and pointing. I do have scribleatures and shlosh caps woven into the amalgum of somewhat glyph shaped regurgitations.
i try to always use proportional figures. The rest is an unruly mess of sc and lc. I have a sans titling style, a lovely cursive for readability, and a ink-vomit freakout for little love notes to myself. All for my own amusement, of course.
What about pens? I am looking for something that has a nib of about 1.5-2mm wide, just enough to get some stroke variation. I hate ballpoints. What's yours?
As I wrote above I almost always write with a Rotring 1.1 Art Pen. It writes incredibly smoothly, but scratches those long descenders on my "g"s, "y"s and "f"s so nicely into the paper. I also have a 1.9 and 2.7 for calligraphy and an EF for sketching.
I too love double storey g's, and find them scattered throughout my writing. It's funny, I find that I do not doodle quite as much as I used to during lectures, but I am constantly changing my style of lettering, often several times on the same page. I use a lot of s.caps as well as the occasional double storey lc A along with a lot of other funky retro style lettering. I should really scan in my notes sometime too.....
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2.Aug.2004 11.36pm
Or.....
Does anybody here use italic, bold face, display or caption - as you talk?
The Lord of The Ring
3.Aug.2004 12.29am
Oy Lord of da friggin' Rings! I was being serious!
No really, I mean it: does anybody here use typographical conventions
in their handwriting? (I know: ligatures actually stem from handwriting,
but you know what I mean.)
3.Aug.2004 12.30am
I use smallcaps and ligatures when I write, but not oldstyle figures.
3.Aug.2004 1.45am
I use OSF as I write, and sometime small caps and ligatures, too. Sometimes, I like to add in swash caps or alternate figures for my amusement.
Not that my handwriting is even remotely legible, mind you...
3.Aug.2004 2.06am
just realised, that's the same red marker as wot wrote the 4 in the pic (just changed the colour)
3.Aug.2004 2.54am
Yes as a matter of fact I just noticed this yesterday when I was filling in a form by hand. To my surprise I used Small Caps. I guess I did it so people could actually read it. My lowercase handwriting seems to be a bit messy.

3.Aug.2004 7.14am
Yes, all three.
OSF and ligs (proper joining really, as in Caflisch OT) all the time. But lining figures for phone numbers.
Caps with Small caps mainly for subheadings.
3.Aug.2004 7.18am
Tabular or proportional?.
3.Aug.2004 9.00am
no small caps or osf, but all my letters tend to become ligated and i started using a double storey g the other day....
3.Aug.2004 9.25am
Yves: tabular when stacked.
3.Aug.2004 9.55am
Never smallcaps, always lining figures (proportional, duh :-), but heavily ligated (so generally illegible). And this last bit is related to the central question:
Exactly who reads your handwriting, and how much of it?
hhp
3.Aug.2004 10.03am
acutally i think i have two modes of handwriting - my own bastard script that i use most of the time and my own formal hand that i use when i actually want people to read it. but mostly i think my scribbling are meant only for me, so it becomes a real scrawl, no fine typographic features to speak of.
3.Aug.2004 10.12am
my handwriting depends heavily upon ligatures. i write very slowly and without them i would still be in grade school.
3.Aug.2004 10.14am
oh and my mood dictates the style of my figures.
3.Aug.2004 10.46am
If I use caps in a row at all, they tend to be outsized, as it's usually me writing a note to myself that I need to catch later. Numerals are neither lining nor traditional OSF but somewhere in between, always proportional. And the only ligature I tend to use is the "ing" below:

3.Aug.2004 11.05am
i think we need a new thread: "show us your John Hancock " with a panagram and a signiature...
3.Aug.2004 11.28am
I use old style figures when I write, as well as small caps (though extremely inconsistent) and ligatures.
Lately I have noticed my lowercase f has become more of a florian and my double story g is getting very interesting.
3.Aug.2004 11.42am
sometimes my handwriting looks like a Moscoso poster, but I'd rather not go into detail why
3.Aug.2004 12.08pm
I've written in small caps since I was but a young lad (much to the dismay of my teachers).
As a consequence, I never really perfected the art of fine cursive writing (sure, I know how to do it, but practice is another matter). And ligatures never come into the picture--when I actually write in lowercase, the result can only be described as an attempt at cursive with absolutely no connections between the letters.
I like the signature sample and panagram idea, but it could get a bit cumbersome couldn't it?
3.Aug.2004 12.26pm
it could get a bit cumbersome couldn't it?
i guess so, and i dunno if that'd go over too well with the webmasters.
concerning cursive: i can write Russian in a very nice cursive, better than i can write block letters, but for English it's the other way around, i can't write in English in cursive without a lot of hesitation, which defeats the purpose of writing in cursive in the first place.
3.Aug.2004 12.36pm
Chesh, that's a serious "ing" ligature.
hhp
3.Aug.2004 12.39pm
chesh you are using an "an" lig there. ;^>
3.Aug.2004 1.02pm
True, Tiff -- I hadn't thought about that.
Also, you might say that the "ing" ligature is actually a "ting" ligature where the t bar takes off the i dot, but then I'm really spotty with i dots to begin with. But that "ing" shows up almost all the time in my handwriting.
3.Aug.2004 1.43pm
When I do calligraphy its swashes and ligatures, no small caps. All crossword puzzels are all caps
3.Aug.2004 1.50pm
My handwriting communicates to others about as well as my grunting and pointing. I do have scribleatures and shlosh caps woven into the amalgum of somewhat glyph shaped regurgitations.
ChrisL
3.Aug.2004 6.05pm
i try to always use proportional figures. The rest
is an unruly mess of sc and lc. I have a sans titling
style, a lovely cursive for readability, and a ink-vomit
freakout for little love notes to myself. All for my own
amusement, of course.
4.Aug.2004 6.19am
4.Aug.2004 6.19am
4.Aug.2004 7.14am
And, for contrast...

4.Aug.2004 7.35am
What does your ampersand look like? I changed mine something
like 10 years ago, some years after I completely overhauled my
handwriting.
4.Aug.2004 7.44am
I'm afraid mine looks like the "commercial" variety, rather than the infinitely classier "ligature" variety.
I hope there are no graphologists now nodding intently at our samples here!
4.Aug.2004 7.46am
>detail why
Reminds me of the experiment where some (very serious) scientists gave spiders varying doses of LSD and examined what their webs looked like.
Something like that would have made a good calligraphy event for Type High.
4.Aug.2004 7.51am
Yeah, and then P22 could make Baudelaire's handwriting font.
What could be done nicely at TypeCon is lettering under the influence of sleep deprivation. I actually made a font like that once.
hhp
4.Aug.2004 1.25pm
What about pens? I am looking for something
that has a nib of about 1.5-2mm wide, just
enough to get some stroke variation. I hate
ballpoints. What's yours?
4.Aug.2004 1.50pm
As I wrote above
I almost always write with a Rotring 1.1 Art Pen.
It writes incredibly smoothly, but scratches those long descenders on
my "g"s, "y"s and "f"s so nicely into the paper. I also have a 1.9 and 2.7
for calligraphy and an EF for sketching.
4.Aug.2004 1.58pm
Kris, I have a Pilot Parallel, the 2.4mm nib. It's a good pen, easy to use (but it's a limited tool).
Ryuichi Tateno recommended me the William Mitchell pens and nibs. He said it's a very good brand.
4.Aug.2004 3.53pm
First and foremost, I write only with found objects, whatever I find first, I write with.
:-)
4.Aug.2004 10.43pm
I too love double storey g's, and find them scattered throughout my writing.
It's funny, I find that I do not doodle quite as much as I used to during lectures, but I am constantly changing my style of lettering, often several times on the same page. I use a lot of s.caps as well as the occasional double storey lc A along with a lot of other funky retro style lettering. I should really scan in my notes sometime too.....