Looking for a typeface with a invert 3 instead of the E

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Looking for a typeface with a invert 3 instead of the E
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looking for a typeface with a invert 3 instead of the E

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Chank’s Stomper — but I also agree with Stephen, the results could be more unique and interesting.

:-)

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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But flipping can ruin stroke topology.

hhp

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huh? haha! Sorry, Hrant, I read that remark as a joke. In which case if you aren’t joking I guess it makes sense. I need to bone up on my “typographic” vocabulary.

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I’ve already think to make change the E by a 3, but i tought that it was not professionnal…

???

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I don’t think Hrant is joking. Although mirroring a character may be applied to most vertical-stressed typefaces (Bodoni or Univers, for example) without major harms. But imagine what happens if you flip Garamond’s “3”…

“Not professional”? It depends on the typeface you will flip, and of course, the way you do the whole thing. Getting a proper flipped-3 “E” and doing a bad layout/logo won’t be much “professional” IMHO.

So, you might wanna check Eplica by Yvonne Dietrich and Locator Display by Eric Olson.

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Dyadis is another.

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I found this one, do someone know the name?

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Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but just in case it has yet to be considered…

After inverting the 3 you could then modify it (Or, make your own from scratch) so that it fit in more harmoniously with the rest of the letters used.

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Or you could rotate the 3 180 degrees rather than reflecting it.

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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But then you’d probably ruin the vertical proportional topology.

hhp

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Hrant

Yes. My heart dropped when I realized no one knew what you were talking about. Geeez.

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I’m sure most do, it’s just that my wording was so “ceremonial” that it threw people off. And the second time it was intentionally so!  :-)

hhp

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Renner’s Topic/Steile Futura has an alternate E that
looks three-ish. It’s from the early 1950s.

Pakenham, Tasse and Solex are descendants.
Don’t know whether these have the 3E thing
but you could check. There might be other
descendants, too.

bj

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If you have Swash Italic versions of any of your fonts you’ll be able to find plenty of scripty Es in there.

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Another is ITC Conduit, but 3E is a
alternative only

See here:
http://www.itcfonts.com/fonts/detail.asp?nCo=AFMT&sku=ITC9231

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Let’s make up a name then.

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Colin Harnett

How about “THR333FLOP

Do you folk think this is really a good idea? Italics maybe! The ITC is Oblique, (fake italic). There are lots traditional THR333FLOP italic examples.

“Branding Iron Typography.” Really, anyone into a can of pork and beans? Should we sing “Home, home on the range?”

My advice, forget it!

Gerald Giampa

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> invert 3 instead of the E

Maybe CerebralPares Falk?

brian jaramillo's picture
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backwards three

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that should read eerht!

Hrant H Papazian's picture
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What about “spineless E”?

hhp

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Emigre’s Tarzana comes immediately to mind.

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Why not use any font and invert the 3 yourself?

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I’m adding that phrase to the SmallTalk Generator. Just in time for Typecon too!

If it’s been a while, http://www.typophile.com/smalltalk/

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Now, can someboey tell us if that form of E has a name.
Surely it’s not a flopped 3.

I’m sure it’s use (more recently popularized by Tarzana) has
more to do with a direct reference to italics than a total
invention. Looking at Tarzana’s E, it fits perfectly with some
other italic-inspired elements (the R, a, k as well as the
serifs in general).

For reference

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Ok, I know I must have read this when it first came out…

Emigre’s description of Tarzana:
The roman (upright) and italic versions were designed simultaneously, with the purpose of cross-pollination. In some instances, roman character designs were developed on the basis of the italics, resulting in such features as the curved arm on the lower case “k,” the asymmetric capital “Y,” and the rounded capital “E,” yielding an informal feel to the entire family.

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» My heart dropped when I realized no one knew what
you were talking about. Geeez.


> I’m sure most do, it’s just that my wording was so
“ceremonial” that it threw people off.


Reading too much comic books is damaging for your
ability to comprehend words of more than two syllables.
=D

Here’s a couple from the exquisite Fountain collection:
Corpus Gothic Alternative | Grimoire | OGRA
There are also quite a few with rounded UC ‘E’s like the
wonderful Schlager and UDO a.o.

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> Or you could rotate the 3 180 degrees rather than
reflecting it.


I certainly wouldn’t do that! Hrant is right, and it
certainly would come out wrong, whereas flipping
might be less harmful (it all depends on the design
of the typeface).

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> Now, can somebody tell us if that form of E has a name.
Surely it’s not a flopped 3.


I don’t think it has a name, as it is a pure design
alternative, not a different character.

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Yves wrote:
I don’t think it has a name, as it is a pure design
alternative, not a different character.


True. A name would be overkill, but calling it a flopped 3
is a mistake. Emigre calls it a rounded E and I would
offer italic-inspired E as a worthy alternative.

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Nah, that doesn’t sound as good. Funny, I actually
came up with “eerth” too. It starts off with an E
sound and the word gives away very well what it is.

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Oooh, clever! :-)