Sommet Rounded

Jeremy Dooley's picture

I have been working on an update to my Sommet Rounded family, adding two new weights and cyrillic support. I am right on the verge of being able to ask for some feedback on those, but I wanted to get some feedback on the originals.

Thanks for your constructive feedback.

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sim's picture

I like your Sommet. I'd make only one comment. I find the S s don't fit the spirit of the typeface. I don't know what, but something disturb me in it. I'd try the spin more horizontal or less oblique. I think it would more fit with the a, e. Keep going.

cerulean's picture

The one significant problem that I see is that the italic a is too easily mistaken for o. It will probably need a stem of some kind.

Jeremy Dooley's picture

Sim,

Thanks for pointing that out. I have refined the S and s so that the center stroke is smoother and the outside shape is "blockier" but I'm not sure if I've specifically addressed your issue. I will continue to analyze that.

Cerulean,

I completely agree with you about the a variant, and had already made one with a stem. Good catch.

I've attached a preview image and a larger .pdf that includes some Cyrillic copy I pulled from wikipedia. I hope there are some Russian natives that can look it over and offer feedback.

Thank you for the advice so far,

Jeremy Dooley
www.insignedesign.com

http://www.insignedesign.com/files/SommetRTypoCYR.pdf

Jongseong's picture

The boldest weight works best. A lot more could be done to harmonize the shapes of the letters. Perhaps take a look at how FF Sanuk balances verticals with subtle near-horizontal curves. The diagonals can be somewhat jarring in this scheme. W calls too much attention to itself, and I think M should be tamed as well.

As for the Cyrillic letters, у needs to descend, the 'legs' of д need to descend more, and the bowl of ь needs to be a touch taller and narrower and given a treatment similar to d. The side of б probably should be more vertical. The м stands out even more in the Cyrillic, and should really be given vertical sides.

Jeremy Dooley's picture

Jongseong,

Thank you for your time and feedback.

I'm studying FF Sanuk per your suggestion. I was wondering about the W, and your comment pushed me to rework it, but I kept the old as an alternate. I prefer the spread M form, but I created an alternate and used the vertical sided M and м for the Cyrillic.

Per your comment, I've extended the д legs. Let me know if I need to go further. I changed the y to the English lowercase form as the other references agreed with you. I had already reworked the б prior to your comment.

I've increased the counter size of the ь on the bolder weights and made it a bit taller. Could you clarify "given a similar treatment to d?" My refs all agree that is it appears like an upside down P smallcap.

Thank you,

Jeremy Dooley
www.insignedesign.com

Jongseong's picture

I like the improvements!

The д should still descend a bit more. Usually it descends as much as the ц.

The ascender of the б looks a bit cramped against the bowl. I would nudge the part that connects to the bowl up and to the left, so that the curve is a bit squarer.

The counter size and shape for the ь looks right. What I meant about the treatment similar to the d (I should have said b) is that the bottom of the bowl could be curved and skewed, which is a defining feature of this design for letters such as a, b, and d. You can refer to [http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/andrijtype/oksana-text/|Oksana Text] to see how this letter can be treated in an informal Cyrillic design.

Maybe the M doesn't have to be vertical. I thought a vertical M would be in keeping with your design where the vertical lines are the constant shared between many letters, but in the case of the M (and for м), I now think having the sides a touch inclined would flow better with the rest of the design. The original spread M is too much for the Cyrillic, I think, but maybe something in between would work.

Good luck!

djnippa's picture

Love the improvements,
and really love the font.

and just to add, I already had the whole family lined-up to buy at www.myfonts.com, but may wait a little longer until the updates are complete.
Unless you've already added the changes to the whole family?

djnippa@@hotmail.com

Jeremy Dooley's picture

Thanks again for your feedback, Jongseong.

I've made the changes suggested for the д and б. I looked at a few more sources for the ь and think I will keep it as is.

I've replied directly to djnippa, but the changes are not and will not be available for awhile. Waiting for more feedback from a variety of sources.

Thank you,

Jeremy Dooley
www.insignedesign.com

Jeremy Dooley's picture

Thanks for all the comments. I have released the updates, and they are available for 1/3rd off for a limited time. Sommet Rounded

Thank you,

Jeremy Dooley
www.insignedesign.com

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