Who are the moderators and people behind Typophile? Say hello.
Can someone tell me what the little icons on the top-left of some of the avatars represent? (Probably a dumb question I realize)
What is “Typophile Books?”
Typophile books is a great list of books in Typography and Type Design, with some reviews, but it's going into hiding for two or three years. Like the tracker: www.typophile.com/tracker, you can get to it by www.typophile.com/books, but there's no link to it. Why is that, moderators?
This information, hitherto almost concealed, is still unavailable from the mostly-Flash, unindexable monstrosity that is the homepage or from any obvious other place. It was completely unknown to me (and, admit it, to you) until today.
And it’s posted here to preëmpt a discussion of doing what the most successful online forum, MetaFilter, does: Run a separate forum just for discussions about the forum.
_Joe: I will admit that your e-mail did prompt us to try and make these people a little more visible to everyone, I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Maybe we should say "thank you" for getting us to do something about it, even with this small step.
Typophile has never kept the identities of administrators or moderators concealed. Sure, perhaps we didn't surface our biographies to the "monstrosity" that is our home page, but this site is about the people who make up the larger community, not about us.
I'm actually very interested in the discussion that you propose, but I must remind you that we are not MetaFilter and do not try to be. There are a number of ways we can enhance the site - we know this - and we'd like to find ways to make it a better experience for everyone (finding the time is our biggest obstacle). As a matter of fact, for months now we have been re-designing and building what will eventually become Typophile 2.0, or 3.0 - or whatever version we are on :)
_William: Unfortunately Books has not gotten the attention it deserves in recent years, but it is still linked under "Resources."
Joe, this page entitled PLEASE READ (which has been fixed to the top of the 'General Discussion' page) has housed information about moderators and how to contact them for several years now. This is hardly what I would call 'almost concealed'.
Edit: oops, It seems to me you were, in fact, referring to the 'Books' section being buried, if this was the case I do apologize.
>still linked under “Resources.”
Thanks, Zara, I stand corrected. Would it be possible to have a more prominent place? Then I think it might be more active, with new posts and reviews.
I think for the time being we might be able to find somewhere to surface books, but I believe this has been addressed in the new/future site architecture.
This site is great. But I do hope that something is fixed with the tracking so that Christopher Dean doesn't have to write the word Tracking in every single thread. I mean, imagine if that caught on and everyone wrote the word Tracking.
If I do a search with the word Tracking, I find every single thread in which he has listed the word Tracking. What if I was looking for information on Tracking, as in letterspacing? I would be forced to sift thru all of his Tracking posts.
I therefore propose that Christopher use a different word, unrelated to typography itself, such as "disruptive," or "selfish."
I therefore propose that Christopher use a different word, unrelated to typography itself, such as “disruptive,” or “selfish.”
And a lot of concurrance (if that is a word).
. . .
Bert Vanderveen BNO
tmac: Great feedback, and we'll address this issue specifically, but let's try not to turn this thread into a feature wish-list or bug report. Feel free to e-mail us directly, or start another thread :)
typophile [at] punchcut [dot] com
Now I finally understand why Dan is carrying that C around ;)
How about a big round of applause for the Typophile moderators and the Punchcut crew who keep this forum up and running, everybody?
Yay crew! Nice one, Ricardo.
Thanks, William. I did a Google image search for "applause" and... :-)
> How about a big round of applause for the Typophile moderators and the Punchcut crew who keep this forum up and running, everybody?
Absolutely, thanks to all the moderators and Punchcut people. This site is great :)
Your time and expertise are well appreciated.
Ricardo, that is fantastic!
And the rest of you can just rattle your jewelry.
"This site is great. But I do hope that something is fixed with the tracking so that Christopher Dean doesn’t have to write the word Tracking in every single thread. I mean, imagine if that caught on and everyone wrote the word Tracking",
I think Christopher should use a different word or phrase, possibly one of the following;
"The girl is wetter than a haddock's bathing costume"
"We could go back to Dallas in November 1963, stand on the grassy knoll, and shout 'Duck!'"
"So this is really me? A no-style gimbo with teeth druids could use as a place of worship?"
" Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."
Heh-heh. Good ole Dr. Winston O'Boogie!
While Ricardo takes first prize for applause and Patty rattles her jewelry, all I can do is fling my bling :-)
Great job to moderators one and all!
This will be redundant for many but I'll post this set of links all the same for anybody might not know
BTW - Regarding the books section*, have a look here:
There are other things to be found here:
Note also that having this URL as a book mark can be handyhttp://typophile.com/tracker
You may want to bookmark a tracker of your own threads as well
And don't forget the Wikihttp://typophile.com/typowiki
And for fun
* this is seriously out of date at this point but far far better than nothing!
Using Safari, I have the Tracker as the first bookmark in my bookmarks bar so I can literally hit command-1 and I'm viewing the latest on Typophile. :)
I just discovered the tracking feature a few days ago. Before that, I found it odd that Christopher Dean seemed to state his presence in every thread.
I "bookmark" threads of interest that way. Preferably with something meaningful to contribute. If I can't, rather than make noise, and/or want to be a silent observer, I just post "tracking." When I log in the next day, I go to my account, then click tracking, and it gives me a list showing me the threads I'm following and if there have been any new comments. I find it very helpful for my memory.
@Dean: the objections are to the use of the word "tracking", which is typographically meaningful, and therefore potentially resulting in false matches. Let's use something else, only meaningful to you, eh?
Christopher, I had not seen what there was to object to myself but this comment about the word tracking being a typographically important for search seems like a good argument. My suggestion is to post a period on its own. That will do the job without diluting the semantic value of the value of the word "tracking" in searches of Typophile.
I find any meaningless, contentless post to be annoying, regardless
of whether it contains a typographically important word.
Christopher, if you use the typophile.com/tracker url, you will get all the active threads, and probably feel less need to mark those you are particularly interested in.
Moderators, can a link to the tracker be restored, and to a prominent place, labeled clearly eg. "recent posts"? That will make life easier for the newer users. The tracker, bookmarked, is what many veteran typophilers like myself use regularly as the entry to this great site.
Yup, I've been using the tracker page since someone mentioned it a few months ago, a most useful page :)
While I can understand the ease of using Typophile’s tracking functionality (and I second the request to be able to track a thread without having posted oneself), there are alternatives:
Bookmark the thread in question. Most browsers let you organise your bookmarks in folders, thus you could set up your Typophile folder.
Every thread has an RSS feed, see the little ‘rss’ link at the end of the original post. If you use a Feedreader, you can subscribe to the thread and keep track of new posts. In some browsers, you can store the RSS feed as a dynamic or ‘live’ bookmark.
if you want to track a thread, just make a post.
a real post.
it's not really all that hard to say something creative.
or entertaining. or interesting. or just plain on-topic.
then include, as a p.s., your magic word.
(which should _not_ be "tracking", or "kerning", or
anything else people might reasonably search for.)
step out from the shadows, you lurkers. take part.
I agree that using "track" or "tracking" on Typophile isn't a good idea, but what is the big deal beyond that? You're tripping over minutiae.
if people could at least give us some interesting ASCII art when they want to follow a thread, that would maybe not be less obtrusive, but at least more enjoyable :^D
In an attempt to swing this thread back to the moderators who run it, Here is a picture of Eben tracking in a former life (how am I doing, Paul? It even has Arizona in it)
The thirteen original moderators of Typophile.
miss tiffany said:
> You’re tripping over minutiae.
actually, none of it bothers me a bit.
i was merely responding in consideration for begsini, who said:
> I find any meaningless, contentless post to be annoying,
> regardless of whether it contains a typographically important word.
p.s. but i send out big love to the moderators!
Miss Tiffany has diffused many difficult situations on this board, as well as the rest of the moderators.
It has calmed down a bit, either that or I am not here to witness quite as much.
Yes, until there's an alternate way to track a thread other than by marking it while I'm using Google reader, I'll stick to this method. Plain old browser bookmarking is only available to people who browse the internet via their own personal computer, which is I'm not. Should I replace the word "tracking" with "clapping" instead. :D
Big thanks to all the kind moderators.
I just downloaded a free RSS reader for my iphone. Very cool to be able to track threads on the go.
Unfortunately, this is getting into You People Suck territory real fast. The fact remains that this site is not per se “moderated” and the so-called moderators have done nothing to make themselves conspicuous or available. A “PLEASE READ” sticky thread about how to post is no substitute for a properly managed and open advisory of who runs this site. (It’s “a Punchcut gig.” What?)
Let me just ask one question here: More than half a decade in, why is it only now we are “meet[ing]” our “moderators”?
Typophile is not MetaFilter, but MetaFilter works better than Typophile and you should steal their ideas. I already have a list of suggestions from MetaFilter’s admins. A later thread will be posted.
“I think Typophile is just great!” is not an argument against improvement, including the improvement of adding a MetaPhile section for discussions of Typophile.
Typography is a field that requires a long apprenticeship just to develop an eye. Well, guess what: The Internet has been around a long time (longer than the Web), and many online fora predate Typophile by years. Your own limited experience, and your gloss that things are just fabulous here, are no substitutes for a rationally managed and continuously improving Typophile.
While there is always room for improvement in any site or forum and I agree that Typohile could use some fixin' for sure, it is far easier to spot flaws than it is to fix them. We all have to remember that there is no paid staff or moderators here. This is a "for the love of it" group of volunteers who work here--they also have full-time jobs, full-time families, and the need for a few hours sleep on occasion. They are doing well more work than they are thanked by us to do. let alone paid by us to do.
We all know it isn't the most perfectly done site on earth and we would all like to see constant improvement. Since it is a"for the love of it" free gig, that only happens when more people volunteer their private time to do it. The point is, any of us who has a problem with the site can also volunteer not just a verbal solution but pitch in the sweat off their brow to make it happen. Pony up or be willing to live with the bumpy ride. Give the moderators the slack that you would want if you were doing it as a freebe.
Unfortunately, this is getting into You People Suck territory real fast.
Joe, your angry soul needs a little therapy. Perhaps getting outside and enjoying life beyond the internet would help. Or, maybe you'd like to volunteer your personal time to a community that you have been taking advantage of for over 4 years? Griping about it all the time is the easy part.
I have said this more times than I would like to admit, but we are well aware of areas on the site that could use improvements. To the development, the architecture, and the need for new and improved features. We do what we can - when we have the resources - but as a design firm that has full time clients, and with a small handful of people that have families and real lives outside of their careers, making these changes can be very difficult to achieve. But we try and we do what we can and we are making progress on the next generation of the site.
Moderators have always been present and known throughout the community, and have always been actively involved - for 9 years now. So making the claim that "…so-called moderators have done nothing to make themselves conspicuous or available" is absolute rubbish.
Joe Clark is a troll. Just ignore him.
joe clark, you suck. ;+)
seriously, folks, joe clark is not "an angry soul",
and he's not "a troll". he's a person who cares,
a lot, sometimes too much, and he speaks up...
he's the kind of spice that makes life interesting.
plus, since these are just electrons on the internet,
it's easy to ignore him if that's what you wanna do.