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Hi,
I'm currently working on a logo for a friends wedding and am looking for some feedback. I'm going to have to draw this logo from scratch and so am looking for some tips on how to do that successfully (I'm normally used to editing existing fonts rather than drawing them freehand).
This sketch shows how it currently looks. The letters will be filled (the second 'm' of Emma and the 'v' of Steve will be filled red). I'm generally happy with the look of 'Steve', but 'Emma' looks unbalanced due to the height of the 'E'. Any help at all is appreciated at this point.
Thanks
Dave
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23 Sep 2009 — 4:03pm
Could the bottom of the E somehow loop with the S? Clever idea. I think the E needs to be as big as S, joining them will save space.
23 Sep 2009 — 7:44pm
Sweet!
23 Sep 2009 — 11:16pm
Miss Tiffany, thanks for the input. I'll give that a try today and see how it looks.
29 Sep 2009 — 5:40am
Here it is with the 'E' joined on to the 'S'. Does this help do you think?
29 Sep 2009 — 7:45am
It's improving.
The 'S' is still too empowering. Perhaps, reducing its size to be around the first E's would prove better..?
nagfa
29 Sep 2009 — 8:10am
In this case "Emma" is dominated by "Steve", allthough she's sitting on his back.
:)
I'd suggest to horizontally align "Steve" with the first "e" and take away the strong feet of "S", "t" and the second "e". In my opinion this would not only improve the balance between both names but also lead to a better overall Gestalt. I'd stay with the connection of "E" and "S" and would propably also combine "m" and "t". The seperation of the second "m" and the "v" feels too strict. Maybe getting the "v" combined to the first "e" and at the same time combining "m" and "v" on their right side will lead to a more subtle seperation and maybe make the heart a little less obvious, so it doesn't look so "planned".
Would be great to see a final logo that says: "Emma and Steve form a heart in a magically surprising way!" Right now it looks like there's a heart with surrounding letters that read Emma and Steve, which is already very good but I think the message could be communicated in a more effective way.
I really like your current approach and I'm looking forward to seeing more of it.
29 Sep 2009 — 2:26pm
Simplicious - thanks for your detailed feedback.
I do agree with your point about making the heart less structured and have aimed to make everything a bit more fluid. I have also addressed my issues with balance a little more by making Emma arch over a little more, rather than having a tall "E" and then the "mma" all run a long the same level.
There's still quite a bit of work to do, but I feel it's definitely heading in the right direction now.
29 Sep 2009 — 5:19pm
Are you planning on working in an ampersand? It seems strange for it simply to be "emma steve"
penn
29 Sep 2009 — 6:38pm
WhitePepper, have you considered transitioning the left foot of left M into T's crossbar ?
30 Sep 2009 — 1:04am
pennANDink - I decided not to use an ampersand, as in effect the heart acts as a connector.
This leads me on to your point epsilicon - having two hearts was an option, but I thought it might become too over-the-top. Having 2 hearts would work also less well as an ampersand replacement, and the symbolism is slightly lost (i.e two names forming one united heart).
Thank you for your opinions though :)
30 Sep 2009 — 1:24am
Right.
Your latest sketch looks way better than the previous versions. I'm really curious about the vectorized logo. Hopefully you can adopt the playfulness of your sketches.
30 Sep 2009 — 1:32am
That's going to be the tricky part! I am not in least bit confident about that part of the process!
30 Sep 2009 — 4:47am
Although I may just draw it carefully by hand and scan it in - I'll probably get better results that way I think.
Attached is a very quick (i.e not carefully done) sketch and already I'm quite liking the flow that the pen gives it.
30 Sep 2009 — 5:35am
I'm taking my inspiration from: http://www.alisoncarmichael.com/
30 Sep 2009 — 6:01am
Can anybody else see the latest image? It isn't showing on my computer.
30 Sep 2009 — 11:33am
I still cant see that latest image on a different computer so I'm going to try uploading it agin (but smaller this time!).
1 Oct 2009 — 11:54am
Here is my first 'real' draft of the logo. I've re-added the tail of the 't' to try and give the overall composition a bit more shape and structure as a logo, rather than just 2 names next to each other. I think this tail will need thinning out as it's dominating a bit, but would really appreciate your thoughts.
Cheers.
2 Oct 2009 — 2:51pm
I love this, its a very nice concept. Totally agree about just the one heart.
I think the tail on the t maybe isolates the a and e a bit. Could it join the tail of the e (mirroring the loop in the e and s) and in turn maybe run into the a?
The tails on the m seem a bit random.
3 Oct 2009 — 7:39pm
The logo is definitely going in the right direction. Appreciate the whimsical take on the subject (the inspiration behind it - the provided link - explains the choice).
I would retain the assymetrical look of the t's tail, though trying to balance the overall weight of the design.
nagfa
11 Oct 2009 — 3:08pm
Latest version attached with the 'e' of steve looping into the 'a' of Emma.
12 Oct 2009 — 3:45pm
This is looking great! I like your latest one and especially like the 't' swooping underneath the 'e'. It looks like a sword about to stab a heart.
I hope the vector turns out as nicely as the drawing.
22 Oct 2009 — 3:10pm
I think the a is lost now. Somewhere in between both of the last versions, I think, lies a better answer.
27 Oct 2009 — 4:37am
Thanks Miss Tiffany. Do you think the e should still loop directly into the 'a'?
27 Oct 2009 — 12:43pm
I think the a needs to me more of an a. And then figure out how they join or overlap.
14 Jan 2010 — 11:35am
Okay, it's been a while but I've revisited this over Christmas and this is the latest version. I've decided to let the second 'm' attach itself to the 'a' with a little flick at the bottom - this avoids the 'a' looking too isolated or haing the 'e' awkwardly run into it.
The 'E' of 'Emma' is now lowercase to create a more pleasing looking arch over the top.
I'd really love to hear what you think - sorry it's taken so long to update this!!!!
14 Jan 2010 — 11:45am
This is cute, but something isn't clicking. I'm getting this vibe that the outside "envelope" needs to be a defined shape, not semi-random. A heart would be overkill. Maybe a circle or oval. Or maybe lips.
hhp
15 Jan 2010 — 12:46pm
You may be right about giving it more shape. I don't want to go down the lips route, but a bit more overall balance should certainly help.
Here's a version based around an oval shape. The 'a' doesnt quite look right yet but I've made the heart more heart-like.
15 Jan 2010 — 1:13pm
I think that helps.
BTW, does Emma's hair look like that first "m"?
hhp
15 Jan 2010 — 1:46pm
Not really, but maybe I could ask her to change it to make my work better ;)
16 Jan 2010 — 9:34am
To my eye, Emma now reads Emmce. Read aloud, it's MC Steve....which sounds like a rapper. Are they having a rap wedding? How would those vows sound? :)