the only thing is that you have a different lower case for your italic fonts. you could make two fonts out of all this. a non italic version of your italic fonts, and an italic version for your non italic fonts. ( ie: RS Van & SR Van) just my 2¢. deadbeat
I made this symbols to support the Van Family with the same tratement and felling. The initial intention of this project in real fact it was to create different kinds of graphic's solutions ( Typography family, Symbols and Dingbats) with the same apperence and felling. It will be prepare to use to differents visual graphic's situations and solutions ( corporate design, editorial , wayfinding ... ). GIF / JPG:
what i meant by the "RS & SR" was that they could be the start of the font names (ie: RS Van Extended & SR Van Extended) within the family. i really like the symbols. i wasn't refering to them. i was talking about how you plain fonts and italic fonts look different. if you have a plain version of your italic fonts and vise versa, you could have to different fonts in the same family. i like both of them (plain and italic) but think they should have different type style for more versitality. again only my 2¢. keep it up, its a great face.
I say YES to Van. I say NO to the lc 'g'. The counters are just far too small. Notice how it plugs up and looks heavier than the other glyphs at small sizes - especially in the Bold.
First of all thank's to both to made the critics and the appreciation. The Oblique versions I made a skew ( -12º) and I tryed to give the better apperence of the Italic fellings on this oblique version. Like for the exemple the oblique l/c (a), don't have the typical apperence of the oblique normaly used but I desided to use something more expressive to give a new felling for the family and for the visual combination. Thank's for the comments to l/c (g) in real fact the letter must be thinking again. Steve if you don't mind I would like understand better the points that you refered on last message about the plain version that you sayed that are very different of the oblique set. One more time thank's Steve and Stephen. regads for all / Ricardo
well for example you l/c "a" plain and l/c "e" plain looks different than you italic "a" & "e". if you gave the italic version an plain set and vise versa, you could have two sets of fonts within the "Van" family. other than that, it think it's a great face. keep it up.
well for example you l/c "a" plain and l/c "e" plain looks different than you italic "a" & "e". if you gave the italic version an plain set and vise versa, you could have two sets of fonts within the "Van" family. other than that, it think it's a great face. keep it up.
Now I understand!! and thank's for the aswer Steve. In fact personaly I didn't wanted to designed the letters with the apperence of the normaly oblique l/c letter (a)=( Plain with skew inclination to simulate italic) fell's me a rigid visual felling. I think that this set is oblique because are not a typical italic (more scrip). I tryed to change the apperence with the other alternative l/c (a) which is more similiar of the italic, like the other letter l/c (e) that I try ed to incorporated a (scrip) apperence in that caracther and the others of course.
But I would like to have more feedbacks about this question to have a clear ideia of the frontier that I'm trying to tread.
PS: Thanks David for your critics-( Venceremos!>;) Regards for all / Ricardo
Very nice! The letterforms look much cleaner and more unified than they did months ago in your first posting of this family. The lower case "g"s are really growing on me.
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the only thing is that you have a different lower case for your italic fonts.
you could make two fonts out of all this. a non italic version of your italic
fonts, and an italic version for your non italic fonts. ( ie: RS Van & SR Van)
just my 2¢.
deadbeat
9 Nov 2001 — 6:41pm
Sorry Steve but I didn't understand ( RS SR )??.

I made this symbols to support the Van Family with the same tratement and felling. The initial intention of this project in real fact it was to create different kinds of graphic's solutions ( Typography family, Symbols and Dingbats) with the same apperence and felling. It will be prepare to use to differents visual graphic's situations and solutions ( corporate design, editorial , wayfinding ... ).
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Van Wayfinding (people, harrows, airport, admistration, product).
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10 Nov 2001 — 2:07pm
what i meant by the "RS & SR" was that they could be the start of the font names (ie: RS Van Extended & SR Van Extended) within the family.
i really like the symbols. i wasn't refering to them. i was talking about how you plain fonts and italic fonts look different. if you have a plain version of your italic fonts and vise versa, you could have to different fonts in the same family.
i like both of them (plain and italic) but think they should have different type style for more versitality. again only my 2¢. keep it up, its a great face.
10 Nov 2001 — 2:50pm
I say YES to Van. I say NO to the lc 'g'. The
counters are just far too small. Notice how it
plugs up and looks heavier than the other
glyphs at small sizes - especially in the Bold.
Overall, it's looking wonderful, Ricardo. Congrats.
Stephen
10 Nov 2001 — 7:06pm
First of all thank's to both to made the critics and the appreciation. The Oblique versions I made a skew ( -12º) and I tryed to give the better apperence of the Italic fellings on this oblique version. Like for the exemple the oblique l/c (a), don't have the typical apperence of the oblique normaly used but I desided to use something more expressive to give a new felling for the family and for the visual combination. Thank's for the comments to l/c (g) in real fact the letter must be thinking again.
Steve if you don't mind I would like understand better the points that you refered on last message about the plain version that you sayed that are very different of the oblique set. One more time thank's Steve and Stephen.
regads for all / Ricardo
12 Nov 2001 — 9:52am
well for example you l/c "a" plain and l/c "e" plain looks different than you italic "a" & "e". if you
gave the italic version an plain set and vise versa, you could have two sets of fonts within the
"Van" family. other than that, it think it's a great face. keep it up.
12 Nov 2001 — 9:53am
well for example you l/c "a" plain and l/c "e" plain looks different than you italic "a" & "e". if you
gave the italic version an plain set and vise versa, you could have two sets of fonts within the
"Van" family. other than that, it think it's a great face. keep it up.
12 Nov 2001 — 12:40pm
Now I understand!! and thank's for the aswer Steve. In fact personaly I didn't wanted to designed the letters with the apperence of the normaly oblique l/c letter (a)=( Plain with skew inclination to simulate italic) fell's me a rigid visual felling. I think that this set is oblique because are not a typical italic (more scrip). I tryed to change the apperence with the other alternative l/c (a) which is more similiar of the italic, like the other letter l/c (e) that I try ed to incorporated a (scrip) apperence in that caracther and the others of course.
But I would like to have more feedbacks about this question to have a clear ideia of the frontier that I'm trying to tread.
PS: Thanks David for your critics-( Venceremos!>;)
Regards for all / Ricardo
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Ricardo:
Very nice! The letterforms look much cleaner and more unified than they did months ago in your first posting of this family. The lower case "g"s are really growing on me.
And I really like your symbols!
¡Venceremos! >;)
David