Marquis yachts 2 logos 2 fonts

Hi friends

Please help me id these 2 font used in 2 different logos for Marquis Yachts

[[http://www.genmar.com/images/logos/marquis/Marquis_Yachts.gif]]

[[http://www.marquisyachts.com/]]

Thanks in advance

Hernando

Comments

First one looks like [[http://www.treacyfaces.com/050806_TFArrow_2c5a.html|TF Arrow Demi/Medium]] with custom work "[[http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/agfa/cochin/|a-la Cochin]]" on \Q\.
Second one looks handdrawn to me.