Font similar to Trajan but with lowercase - similar to LHF Classic Roman, TF Arrow {Mike Y, Nick Cooke}

Hi all. I am trying to identify this font which shares traits with Trajan. Uppercase letters such as the /N/ are obviously very similar, but this is a bit sharper. Lowercase letters have some distinct differences from other fonts typically paired with Trajan. Most notably the /a/ and /f/.

Any ideas here? All help is greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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Tomi from Suomi's picture

That is not Trajan. And Trajan never had lower case.

lathen.kamas's picture

I'm aware that it is not Trajan, thus the title "similar to Trajan".

Josev's picture

Maybe La Gioconda:
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/letraset/la-gioconda/

Also look at Perpetua and Weiss.

Nick Cooke's picture

As if TF Arrow wasn't bad enough in the first place, somebody has tweaked it to create this new 'design'.

lathen.kamas's picture

Thanks minimalista, but I those La Gioconda, Weiss and Perpetua were the first ones I turned to when trying to figure this out.

TF Arrow does seem to have a few similarities but not enough to make me think this is just a modification of it. Too many noticeable differences.

Hmmm. This is really bugging me.

Any other takers?

lathen.kamas's picture

I meant to say that La Gioconda, Weiss and Perpetua were where I started when I was trying to identify this font.

bowfinpw's picture

It seems to resemble Letterhead's Classic Roman, by John Studden. The details are not exactly the same, but it seems closer than most of the other suggestions I have looked at.

Maybe a customized version of this?

- Mike Yanega

lathen.kamas's picture

Perhaps.

Quite a mystery this one is.

Ray Larabie's picture

I designed Byington as Trajan column lettering with a lowercase. It was commissioned by Roxio Inc. for use in DVD menus. It doesn't have the subtlety of other Trajans as it was fine tuned for use on TV; sharp points and thin lines avoided to prevent interlace flicker.

I've seen an ad for Victoria's secret that paired a nice lowercase with Trajan caps. It was a promotion for a TV runway show or something around 2004.

bowfinpw's picture

However, this is clearly not Byington, although it's nice to hear from you Ray.

I still think this is a customization. Lathen, do you have any other letters from this font?

- Mike Yanega

lathen.kamas's picture

I do. I've attached them here.

Nick Cooke's picture

You've already shown that.

I'm still convinced Arrow is the starting point.

Mike F's picture

Credit should have gone here to Mike Y, not I, Florian.

Florian Hardwig's picture

Argh, it has happened again! Sorry and thanks.

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