old style container?

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old style container?
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I have seen these every once and a while, and I am trying to see more examples and styles of these "elements". I'm not really sure what they are called... They are the mirrored almost Victorian style background containers typically found in logos. I was wondering if anyone had any other information about the history of these or what they are even called would be a good start...

http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/58814
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/34291
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/9500
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/22693
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/77957
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/105753
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/69067
http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/94560

I believe the first example is the closest to what I am trying to describe...

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Cartouche.

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not trying to be picky but the term Cartouche is typically associated with Egyptian culture. Could you point me in a more "design" oriented direction. I am simply trying to gather more information and examples about them but I am usually limited to "uncontemporary" examples.

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Nick's term is absolutely correct. A cartouche can be the oblong container surrounding hieroglyphics, BUT it can also be define as "(also cartouch) an oval or oblong design typically edged with ornamental scrollwork. It is used to hold a painted or low relief design."

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[Deleted as Oldnick got there before me!]

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I understand that it is a correct term... I guess what I meant is there some other association with a more contemporary Cartouche so I might be able to find more example of them... and I'm guessing since all there is, is Cartouche. That answers my question with a no. although the term Cartouche is definitely more then I knew before posting.

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I am not trying to sound rude... Thanks Nick for the term.

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That would be the specific term but I suppose you could also branch out into: shield, bug, lock-up, frame, plaque, emblem, etc.