Two 16th/17th century books

Can somebody ID this types?



Can you give more details about the date and country of origin of each sample? I have Updikes "Printing Types" and it would help to narrow the century and nation for each. The Latin does not necessarily mean these were Italian, because Latin was often the language of scholars, regardless of nationality.

- Mike Yanega

Hi Mike,
1st: 1594, Marpurgi (Germany), printed by Paulus Egenolphus
2nd: 1628, Lyons, no other data

Johannis Grusus, Polonia :)

I'm afraid I couldn't find anything specific to these in the Updike books. It appears to me that the French one was in the era just after Garamond, and during the time of Granjon and Fournier. There are a few digital foundries who have made a business of reviving old typefaces from copies of old books, and perhaps you can find some that approximate your samples. From what I read it was rare until the 18th century for European printers/foundries to print specimen books, and apparently typefaces weren't named, but rather associated with the printers who used them. Updike speaks of typesetting and typefounding as being trades that were often not considered elite, and it was common for printers to use whatever type they could find. Copying other designs was evidently common.

The German sample was even harder to learn much about because Latin/Roman types were not as typical to German Printing, where Fraktur and Schwabacher styles were more in fashion, according to Updike.

I cannot pretend to be an expert on antique types just because I have these books. I have not studied them. I think you really need an expert on antique printing to try to answer this question.

- Mike Yanega

Hi Mike,
Thanks for your effort.
BTW I didn't buy them, so the case is closed...
Best wishes