(x) Old Logos no font quite adds up to - Optima {Riccardo}

Hi guys this my first time here as I have a client that has me stumped. The fonts have been converted to line and nobody knows what the fonts are anymore so I turn to you guys to help out.

There are 2 logos which I think are from the same fonts but they have been possibly pulled about there are some suggestions of Britannic bold, but also some of Candara hence my issue, I have tried various ways of finding out which they are but to no avail.



Yeah Optima - which is even bad unsquooshed

Excellent guys thanks I should have known it but could not place it because of the squooshing!